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View Poll Results: What do you think of the G22/G23/G26 grill?
I like it, but I am not getting one 29 14.65%
I like it, and I am getting one 27 13.64%
I don't like it, and I am not getting one 136 68.69%
I don't like it, but I am getting one anyway 6 3.03%
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      09-16-2020, 02:33 PM   #23
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Unless they fire the design director, no change. He has been clear in interviews that he thinks that the new bugs bunny grills are the cat's meow.
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      09-16-2020, 08:39 PM   #24
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I suspect many of the 33 I dont like it, and Im not getting one voters are probably not really buyers even if the cars remained unchanged from last year.
Not the case for me. I am getting near the point where I would consider a new car. This one is just ugly.
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      09-16-2020, 08:40 PM   #25
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I don't have any issue with modernizing the grill. Even with taking a bold step with it. But this is ridiculous. It really makes the car unattractive.

On FB and Instagram, I keep asking BMW if they can turn around a grill redesign in time for the 2022 model year :-). As you might expect, no response.
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      09-16-2020, 08:47 PM   #26
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I don't have any issue with modernizing the grill. Even with taking a bold step with it. But this is ridiculous. It really makes the car unattractive.

On FB and Instagram, I keep asking BMW if they can turn around a grill redesign in time for the 2022 model year :-). As you might expect, no response.
And you seriously expected a response to that request on social media right now? You might see an LCI by 2024-2025, but definitely not before the i4 is on the street for a couple years.
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      09-16-2020, 09:30 PM   #27
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I suspect many of the 33 "I don't like it, and I'm not getting one" voters are probably not really buyers even if the cars remained unchanged from last year.
I'm just one opinion, and this isn't to detract from opinions of others, but I'm one who actually decided against buying a 440i and instead ordered an M340i. My previous BMW was an e92 coupe, and I would have preferred sticking with a 2 door. I occasionally, but not frequently, have a 3rd or 4th passenger. I generally prefer a coupe body style.

For me, it's not only the grille. It's the fact that the lines and dimensions have evolved into something too similar to other cars. The headlight shapes (which were my favorite styling feature of the e92) seem a little too thin and slanted. I prefer smaller cars, and I would have chosen an M240i coupe instead, although there are things about the M340i that I prefer over the 2 series.

Again, just one person's opinion. I have no doubt the new 4 series is a great car, and I'm proud and grateful that BMW continues to offer several 2 door coupe models when other manufacturers are ditching them. The world is better for it.

It's easy to poke fun at the grille design, but that doesn't mean it was a styling mistake necessarily. I'm eager to see what BMW continues to do with its styling innovation in the future. I won't like every design they come out with, but I don't like all of their designs throughout history, either. Not everything can be an e9 coupe.
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      09-16-2020, 09:54 PM   #28
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I like it a lot but I just can't afford one.
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      09-16-2020, 10:02 PM   #29
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3erMan, Yours is a logical opinion and I appreciate it. I just happen to like the new lines of the 4 series models. I find them bold and refreshing, but I can still see the heritage in the cars. I also liked the M340iX and almost bought a Mineral Gray 2020 model off the lot last month, but it lacked a few options I wanted... so In for a penny in for a pound, ordered the M440iX.

It sounds like we both did okay.
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My prediction is the new 4 series LCI G22 will have a face lift. It will be less shocking and more palatable.

No more, OMG why did they do that? It's almost as if BMW wants the current F32 owners to hold on to their cars a bit longer.
All we can do is hope, I was really wanting the new 4-series coupe to be a winner. I bet they will change it for the LCI but that depends on sales and feedback from whomever they listen to
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BMW seems to be struggling to create some kind of identity out of their grills the same way Acura was struggling with their beaks for a decade before giving up.
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      10-01-2020, 10:34 AM   #33
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The grille does not appeal to me at first glance but I'm reserving judgement until I see it in person. Regardless I won't be looking at getting one due to numerous other reasons such as its lack of classic Bmw design elements and the fact that it's just waaay too large of a car.

Hoping the next M2 hits the mark!
Me too on the M2.
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      10-02-2020, 02:35 PM   #34
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I like the 8 series and think it's one of their better modern designs. I don't see the correlation between an 8 series and a 4 series. Besides that would be a huge compliment for the 4 series. Also, there's nothing wrong with the M340i grills, if you don't like the standard style you can get the regular version found on the 330i. I think some are just rambling for rambling sake when they aren't in the market for either car.

G20 grills are just a mild update of the prior gen so don't see what the big deal is. G22 I can understand since that has the revolutionary grill which deviated from what was customary.
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do one by age too!
Good idea but I cannot edit the questions in the poll, probably for good reason, to keep polling accurate
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I like the 8 series and think it's one of their better modern designs. I don't see the correlation between an 8 series and a 4 series. Besides that would be a huge compliment for the 4 series. Also, there's nothing wrong with the M340i grills, if you don't like the standard style you can get the regular version found on the 330i. I think some are just rambling for rambling sake when they aren't in the market for either car.

G20 grills are just a mild update of the prior gen so don't see what the big deal is. G22 I can understand since that has the revolutionary grill which deviated from what was customary.
The 8 series comparison is actually one of my complaints. BMW obviously realizes that it can't sell the bugs bunny grills to folks with expensive tastes so it will try to force us to get the ugly grills if we don't want to pay >$100K for a new car.

I can afford the 8 series but I won't be forced into buying one because the company is making the other series ugly. There are too many other fish in the sea.
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Post X5 designer interesting comments

Interesting

Here is a youtube video from designer Frank Stephenson talking about the overall design of the new 4-series. He talks about front grill and his thoughts and opinions on the overall design. Based on the youtube video and wiki page he worked on the X5 (e53) design.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSj1Nj2rTc8

His wiki page listed below states he was involved in the design of the X5 (E53) along with other cars, take a look at his wiki page under design career

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Stephenson

Just his opinion
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Stephensons video has been floating around on here for over a month. Not all that interesting. Correct, just his opinion, from a former designer who worked on an SUV
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from a former designer who worked on an SUV
The man also worked and oversaw design for McLaren, Ferrari, and Maserati among many other brands and has designed some iconic cars. Your comment makes it sound like you are trying to undermine his talent and eye for design.
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I knew that, and yet I was indeed.
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Still looks brilliant. But you need to actually see it in person to appreciate it.
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Still looks brilliant. But you need to actually see it in person to appreciate it.
Seen it in person, still hate it...
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