UK 2020 3 Series Infotainment Query

neilp950 · 06-09-2021, 03:40 PM

Took a used 3 series out for a test drive today - spec as follows:

320D M Sport X-Drive. UK 70 Plate (First Registered October 2020) but theres something not quite right with the interior. (PS. not being sold by a BMW Dealership.)

It does not appear to have the live cockpit professional version 7 with the following observations:

- It does not have the 12.3" drivers digital display but instead electronic dials with a small display in the middle
- The main centre display is only an 8: display and not the 10" display you should get on this model
- There is not Sat Nav on the car (there is not even the 'Nav' and 'map' buttons on the centre console.

I've attached some pictures to explain

This all seems very strange and wandering if anyone can shed any light on this?

Thanks

SilverGrey · 06-09-2021, 03:48 PM

Are you sure it’s an M Sport? I think that set-up you’ve shown is standard on the SE and Sport.

I’ve just read your post again - no nav? Is it even a UK car?

willougs · 06-09-2021, 03:48 PM

Sure it was an M-sport, and not just a Sport?

Although as mentioned above, it still should have Sat Nav.

neilp950 · 06-09-2021, 04:06 PM

Yes, 100% M Sport. Even has the M Sport Pro pack (19" wheels / black grill etc)

See attached screen shot from online car checker. Also link below to the car itself.

https://www.arnoldclark.com/nearly-n...rnycm-u-261835

The fact that it doesn't have sat nav is strange as all UK models should have it as standard.

The online check I did says it is not an import. Car being sold by my local Mercedes dealership but think I'll phone my local BMW dealer in morning to see if they can explain.

G82Dude · 06-09-2021, 04:51 PM

Strangely, that display seems better than the whizzy pro one - the pro cockpit is trying too hard. Not in the class of Audi for their digi dashboards' design and layout.

Keith_C · 06-10-2021, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by neilp950

Yes, 100% M Sport. Even has the M Sport Pro pack (19" wheels / black grill etc)

See attached screen shot from online car checker. Also link below to the car itself.

https://www.arnoldclark.com/nearly-n...rnycm-u-261835

The fact that it doesn't have sat nav is strange as all UK models should have it as standard.

The online check I did says it is not an import. Car being sold by my local Mercedes dealership but think I'll phone my local BMW dealer in morning to see if they can explain.

Deffo something not right because it should have Adaptive dampers with M Sport Pro Package. Personally I would swerve that, there's plenty on the market.

shanemeh · 06-10-2021, 02:15 AM

At a guess this is a lower spec SE or similar and the previous owner just added black grille and some other 'Pro' bits?

Best off getting the VIN and checking what it actually should have.

xenon · 06-10-2021, 02:42 AM

Even if it's a lower spec car to which the owner has added bits it should still have basic nav as a UK car. I'd swerve this one by a mile.

Charlie (Wessex) · 06-10-2021, 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by F82Dude

Strangely, that display seems better than the whizzy pro one - the pro cockpit is trying too hard. Not in the class of Audi for their digi dashboards' design and layout.

As an aside

Haven't been behind the wheel of an Audi, but had a 67 Golf R with their digi dash. Prob behind an Audi, but it was far too complicated though I guess having the map in the centre was quite nice, but TBH with HUD that rather negates things. One concern that I did have, was that the display sometimes got really very hot and I wondered about longevity.

SilverGrey · 06-10-2021, 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by shanemeh

At a guess this is a lower spec SE or similar and the previous owner just added black grille and some other 'Pro' bits?

Best off getting the VIN and checking what it actually should have.

Isn't Portimao Blue an M Sport colour though?

Charlie (Wessex) · 06-10-2021, 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by shanemeh

Best off getting the VIN and checking what it actually should have.

Is there a reliable VIN checker as apparently when I plug mine in, I am driving a left hand drive manual 1994 e36 318iS

neilp950 · 06-10-2021, 04:03 AM

Update - spoken with my local BMW Dealer who did a check on the car and apparently it was requested when the car was ordered from new that the connected drive / live cockpit professional was removed - he said he’d never heard of that happening before.

SilverGrey · 06-10-2021, 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by neilp950

Update - spoken with my local BMW Dealer who did a check on the car and apparently it was requested when the car was ordered from new that the connected drive / live cockpit professional was removed - he said he’d never heard of that happening before.

Really? How would the dealer know? Is that something that is held centrally?

Given the debate and head-scratching this has just caused, imagine the headache you'll have trying to sell it on in a few years' time!

bmnut · 06-10-2021, 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Charlie (Wessex)

Is there a reliable VIN checker as apparently when I plug mine in, I am driving a left hand drive manual 1994 e36 318iS

My order going through build now has a VIN allocated and when I use an on-line VIN checker website it comes back as a 2003 E46 320d saloon!
Apparently since mid 2019 or so BMW have been re-useing/re-issuing VIN numbers from cars that are confirmed as 'crushed and cubed'. Seems to be borne out by the fact that when the dealer puts the last seven characters of the VIN into their BMW parts system it comes up with my correct new car.

neilp950 · 06-10-2021, 05:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverGrey

Really? How would the dealer know? Is that something that is held centrally?

Given the debate and head-scratching this has just caused, imagine the headache you'll have trying to sell it on in a few years' time!

Not sure - just spoke to local BMW dealership, gave him registration number and he looked up on the system. he said it was ordered as a fleet car from new last October with a request that the connected drive / live cockpit professional was not needed and as such it was not built in the spec. Possibly to do with it being ordered for fleet?

wassap · 06-10-2021, 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by F82Dude

Strangely, that display seems better than the whizzy pro one - the pro cockpit is trying too hard. Not in the class of Audi for their digi dashboards' design and layout.

Current A4 is not a patch in terms of dashboard layout. Yes the instrument cluster is nice but the sticky up screen is not pretty. The A3 and A6 are better, apart from the heater panel which infuriatingly complicated. And MMI isn’t as good as I drive. But it all depends on what you are familiar with. I went from a A4 to a Volvo to the 330e. The BMW is the better package imo

Isow · 06-10-2021, 07:13 AM

This car is an oddity.
If it is reflected in a lower price that maybe OK to you but as
had been said before, it could be difficult to sell on.
More like a Taxi spec maybe.

paulockenden · 06-10-2021, 07:29 AM

I wonder whether it's ex-police. They order vehicles with strange specs.

shanemeh · 06-10-2021, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by paulockenden

I wonder whether it's ex-police. They order vehicles with strange specs.

The Police wouldn't purchase a 320d.

paulockenden · 06-10-2021, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by shanemeh

The Police wouldn't purchase a 320d.

A quick google of Police 320d suggests otherwise.

xenon · 06-10-2021, 08:16 AM

They certainly wouldn’t delete infotainment but add the M-Sport pack. It’s a very unusual spec. Why delete it if you don’t want it? No one forces you to use it.

shanemeh · 06-10-2021, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by paulockenden

A quick google of Police 320d suggests otherwise.

Mayne going back a good few years but they wouldn't purchase these in 2021. Current fleet are all 330D tourers minimum.

06-09-2021, 03:40 PM	#1
neilp950 New Member 4 Rep 11 Posts Drives: 320D Sport Join Date: Jun 2021 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	UK 2020 3 Series Infotainment Query Took a used 3 series out for a test drive today - spec as follows: 320D M Sport X-Drive. UK 70 Plate (First Registered October 2020) but theres something not quite right with the interior. (PS. not being sold by a BMW Dealership.) It does not appear to have the live cockpit professional version 7 with the following observations: - It does not have the 12.3" drivers digital display but instead electronic dials with a small display in the middle - The main centre display is only an 8: display and not the 10" display you should get on this model - There is not Sat Nav on the car (there is not even the 'Nav' and 'map' buttons on the centre console. I've attached some pictures to explain This all seems very strange and wandering if anyone can shed any light on this? Thanks Attached Images
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06-09-2021, 04:06 PM	#4
neilp950 New Member 4 Rep 11 Posts Drives: 320D Sport Join Date: Jun 2021 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	Yes, 100% M Sport. Even has the M Sport Pro pack (19" wheels / black grill etc) See attached screen shot from online car checker. Also link below to the car itself. https://www.arnoldclark.com/nearly-n...rnycm-u-261835 The fact that it doesn't have sat nav is strange as all UK models should have it as standard. The online check I did says it is not an import. Car being sold by my local Mercedes dealership but think I'll phone my local BMW dealer in morning to see if they can explain. Attached Images
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G82Dude - 290 Rep 2,598 Posts Drives: M4CMxD Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Earth iTrader: (0)	Strangely, that display seems better than the whizzy pro one - the pro cockpit is trying too hard. Not in the class of Audi for their digi dashboards' design and layout.
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shanemeh Private First Class 122 Rep 184 Posts Drives: 330I M Sport Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Hampshire iTrader: (0)	At a guess this is a lower spec SE or similar and the previous owner just added black grille and some other 'Pro' bits? Best off getting the VIN and checking what it actually should have.
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xenon Major General 1397 Rep 8,083 Posts Drives: 2021 G21 330i M-Sport Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Coventry iTrader: (0)	Even if it's a lower spec car to which the owner has added bits it should still have basic nav as a UK car. I'd swerve this one by a mile. __________________ Ian Current: 2021 G21 330i M-Sport Previous: 2018 A6 Avant S-Line MMI+, 2014 F31 320d M-Sport, 2013 F10 520d M-Sport, 2011 F10 530d M-Sport, 2008 320i M-Sport Coupe, 2002 325i, 2001 318i valvetronic, 1998 318i, 1996 525i, 1990 Porsche 944S2
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neilp950 New Member 4 Rep 11 Posts Drives: 320D Sport Join Date: Jun 2021 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	Update - spoken with my local BMW Dealer who did a check on the car and apparently it was requested when the car was ordered from new that the connected drive / live cockpit professional was removed - he said he’d never heard of that happening before.
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Isow Major 319 Rep 1,030 Posts Drives: G20 330i MSport Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Manchester UK iTrader: (0)	This car is an oddity. If it is reflected in a lower price that maybe OK to you but as had been said before, it could be difficult to sell on. More like a Taxi spec maybe.
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