BMW G80 M3 and G82 M4 Specs and Features Speculations by CAR Magazine

schnell325 · 11-15-2017, 01:45 AM

There will always be a better version. But f it. I own an F82 M4 GTS. If another version comes about, I’ll judge it then

JustChris · 11-15-2017, 01:57 AM

I thought M chiefs had already ruled out AWD. I can't see how it could be lighter again than the f8X with AWD.

Exciting car though if it lives up to these specs.

jmg · 11-15-2017, 03:12 AM

Mustang hood + Camaro lights + Alfa tail lights = BMW? I don't mind a more "futuristic" M3/4, but those rear lights are ugly and pasted on.

marvinp · 11-15-2017, 03:41 AM

Might be annoying to have to refill the water injection system every 1,500 miles. But it's an easy way for them to get more HP and better fuel economy.

JustChris · 11-15-2017, 05:24 AM

There's really no point in anyone commenting on the render. It's just a guesswork picture to accompany the real discussion of the specs....

CanAutM3 · 11-15-2017, 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by eMvy

"Electrically spooled turbochargers"

^ This is the electric nonsense I've been hoping for. Sure the lack of parasitic power loss is very negligible, but it should give M the ability to spool the snails extremely quickly, control the boost better and most importantly design the headers for a lovely exhaust note this time around, instead of the headers design catering to the turbos which I believe is one of the principal reasons for it not being that flattering of an exhaust note compared to other boosted inline 6's.

Feedback welcome. Cheers.

They are not talking about an electric supercharger, but an electrically enhanced turbo charger. By definition, a turbo (from the word turbine) uses exhaust gases to boost the intake charge. The electric motor mainly provides an assist to keep the turbos spooled when ther is insufficient engine loaad to do so. This is the technology currently used in F-1.

amw896 · 11-15-2017, 05:55 AM

8spd torque box, hybrid and awd...I can easily say I would have no interest in this gen.

ORIGIN M. · 11-15-2017, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by jmg

Mustang hood + Camaro lights + Alfa tail lights = BMW? I don't mind a more "futuristic" M3/4, but those rear lights are ugly and pasted on.

Camaro copied BMW lights.

Same with the hood.

Get real !

ORIGIN M. · 11-15-2017, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by stvding

I sincerely hope BMW Canada won't make AWD mandatory for G8x...

You Canadians are not that special so come on.

AKRAPOVICOWNS · 11-15-2017, 07:01 AM

Chill guys..just a render..and auto box was a given after we knew the F90 was getting it. Let's see how it comes out.

ssabripo · 11-15-2017, 07:30 AM

sharocks · 11-15-2017, 07:31 AM

Keep it up BMW. I like seeing my E46 M3 become more desirable as ya'll make uglier and uglier looking cars.

ChrisK · 11-15-2017, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by sharocks

Keep it up BMW. I like seeing my E46 M3 become more desirable as ya'll make uglier and uglier looking cars.

The e46 M3 will be one of my favs forever!

kevinlevrone · 11-15-2017, 08:03 AM

After all of the traction problems that I had with my tuned N54 335i, I would get an AWD car in a heartbeat, especially a RWD-biased M car.

And the 48V electric turbos are going to be awsome for eliminating turbo lag.

And imagine using a methanol mix in that water injection tank...put on a software tune and you get an extra 100+ hp in no time.

This is going to be a great car.

It seems that the 500hp Giulia Quadrifoglio for the price of a regular M3 really woke BMW up, they can't just add 10-20hp and call it a new M3...

XxGhostxX · 11-15-2017, 08:29 AM

Very disappointed if manual isn't an option. Id also be very surprised if they could fit awd into it and still keep the weight down. I personally would rather have rwd and less weight then a gtr sedan.

N & M · 11-15-2017, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by aajami

Auto over DCT is a travesty.

The one thing I think is a let down on the new M5. I hope they will not go that way.

Circuit Hunter · 11-15-2017, 09:05 AM

I like it.

eMvy · 11-15-2017, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by CanAutM3

They are not talking about an electric supercharger, but an electrically enhanced turbo charger. By definition, a turbo (from the word turbine) uses exhaust gases to boost the intake charge. The electric motor mainly provides an assist to keep the turbos spooled when ther is insufficient engine loaad to do so. This is the technology currently used in F-1.

See my post after this in which I added clarity. I completely understand the difference between supercharging and turbo charging, exactly how they work, and thus never thought I implied talking about an e supercharger.

IIRC BMW submitted a patent prior to the release of the F80/82 eluding to some particular design using electric turbos which I though would possibly make it to the F80/82. This isn't anything new, the Japanese have made this a thing for a long time.

OK, going to just break it down to the simplest and my hopeful benefit. I think..they can actually design headers that align with the firing order and pulses an I6 deserves, instead of headers that cater to purely relying on exhaust for [quick] spooling at the sacrifice of a lovely exhaust note. Thanks for chiming in friend.

Chicken_Joe · 11-15-2017, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by CanAutM3

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chicken_Joe

I actually think hydrogen is the way of the future since it takes coal to get electricity still in a time efficient manner sooooo........

And how do you think hydrogen in made (extracted) ?

Magic. Dummy smh

OF Hero · 11-15-2017, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Circuit Hunter

I like it.

Me too.

EL Jeffe 5 · 11-15-2017, 09:46 AM

Where is the Beef? all I see is Honda Accord

SYT_Shadow · 11-15-2017, 09:48 AM

Please please please no AWD. For the love of God BMW, no AWD!!!

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