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      07-24-2019, 02:36 AM   #1299
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And I'm taking the "no manuals" position for G8x and all G22 based on the limited and inconclusive info I have right now.
Nail, meet coffin.

Seems like BMW is in a bit of turmoil currently given leadership changes.

But...in my heart...I still have hope.

And, if not, I'll hang on to my current BMWs and perhaps get past my "mid-life crisis" perception of 911s. . (No offense!)
Mid life crisis? All I see is old dudes driving Porsche's with one foot in the grave. No offense
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      07-24-2019, 04:25 AM   #1300
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When the head of M says the next M3 will offer a manual transmission, I believe it will have a manual transmission. Thank you, Markus Flasch!
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      07-24-2019, 05:59 AM   #1301
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Could be like the GT3. No manual on launch, but added as an option a year or so into production.

Even though Porsche is going the opposite direction with the GT4. Only manual on launch with PDK coming as an option later on.

I don't doubt the data provided in the thread because too many of the magazine stories ends up being marketing. This comes from the same guys that claim you can't mount an mperformance lip spoiler without something to "balance" the front end downforce so at the least something changed in their direction.
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Jason Main page title in big letters hints there is going to be no MT and yet there is a post with an interview with BMW M stating there is going to be one.
This is turning into a bit of a mess...
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BMW should maybe hire Akrapovic to make them a compact exhaust that doesn't hang so low.

Not a good trend.
Yeah I agree. I'm not sure how they've come up with a design like this AGAIN. They had a blank piece of paper to start with this time and they still end up with an unsightly exhaust!
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Jason Main page title in big letters hints there is going to be no MT and yet there is a post with an interview with BMW M stating there is going to be one.
This is turning into a bit of a mess...
Yesterday was a big confusion but looks like MT is back and that's all I care

I am sure he will post something VERY SOON.
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And I'm taking the "no manuals" position for G8x and all G22 based on the limited and inconclusive info I have right now.
Nail, meet coffin.

Seems like BMW is in a bit of turmoil currently given leadership changes.

But...in my heart...I still have hope.

And, if not, I'll hang on to my current BMWs and perhaps get past my "mid-life crisis" perception of 911s. . (No offense!)
Mid life crisis? All I see is old dudes driving Porsche's with one foot in the grave. No offense
Yep. Same here. Porsche is an old man's car....
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And I'm taking the "no manuals" position for G8x and all G22 based on the limited and inconclusive info I have right now.
Nail, meet coffin.

Seems like BMW is in a bit of turmoil currently given leadership changes.

But...in my heart...I still have hope.

And, if not, I'll hang on to my current BMWs and perhaps get past my "mid-life crisis" perception of 911s. . (No offense!)
Mid life crisis? All I see is old dudes driving Porsche's with one foot in the grave. No offense
Mainly because they are the only ones who can afford them.
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      07-24-2019, 07:49 AM   #1307
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And I'm taking the "no manuals" position for G8x and all G22 based on the limited and inconclusive info I have right now.
Nail, meet coffin.

Seems like BMW is in a bit of turmoil currently given leadership changes.

But...in my heart...I still have hope.

And, if not, I'll hang on to my current BMWs and perhaps get past my "mid-life crisis" perception of 911s. . (No offense!)
Mid life crisis? All I see is old dudes driving Porsche's with one foot in the grave. No offense
Mainly because they are the only ones who can afford them.
My issue is that they can't drive them. Grandpa has a nice car that he can barely drive and putts around the neighborhood doing the speed limit. Such a waste of a good car.
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And I'm taking the "no manuals" position for G8x and all G22 based on the limited and inconclusive info I have right now.
Nail, meet coffin.

Seems like BMW is in a bit of turmoil currently given leadership changes.

But...in my heart...I still have hope.

And, if not, I'll hang on to my current BMWs and perhaps get past my "mid-life crisis" perception of 911s. . (No offense!)
Mid life crisis? All I see is old dudes driving Porsche's with one foot in the grave. No offense
Mainly because they are the only ones who can afford them.
My issue is that they can't drive them. Grandpa has a nice car that he can barely drive and putts around the neighborhood doing the speed limit. Such a waste of a good car.
lol
One day I drove next to Porsche 911 Turbo S on highway in mine tuned F90 M5 and I figured let's pull a little and have fun. ( almost empty highway ) And that guy drove below 65 on 70mph limit

He was like 70 years old.

I bet that he never revs over 3K
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What if the manual is only offered on a limited run special edition type car? That would explain the ynguldyn's confusion around the manual option and saying there won't be any manuals and Flasch saying there will be a manual.
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What if the manual is only offered on a limited run special edition type car? That would explain the ynguldyn's confusion around the manual option and saying there won't be any manuals and Flasch saying there will be a manual.
Limited run?
They would lose they ass on that.
Cost would not justify!!!
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      07-24-2019, 08:34 AM   #1311
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One day I drove next to Porsche 911 Turbo S on highway in mine tuned F90 M5 and I figured let's pull a little and have fun. ( almost empty highway ) And that guy drove below 65 on 70mph limit

He was like 70 years old.

I bet that he never revs over 3K
Somewhere there is an old guy on a Porsche forum complaining about young punks trying to challenge him on the highway.


Do you all ever think that the older guys have "been there and done that" and have no further interest in a "whose is bigger" contest on the highway?


#savethemanuals
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One day I drove next to Porsche 911 Turbo S on highway in mine tuned F90 M5 and I figured let's pull a little and have fun. ( almost empty highway ) And that guy drove below 65 on 70mph limit

He was like 70 years old.

I bet that he never revs over 3K
Somewhere there is an old guy on a Porsche forum complaining about young punks trying to challenge him on the highway.


Do you all ever think that the older guys have "been there and done that" and have no further interest in a "whose is bigger" contest on the highway?


#savethemanuals
If he would know what computer is. Lol
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      07-24-2019, 08:43 AM   #1313
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Could it mean this?

- M3 Pure is canceled, this mean no MT G80M3
- M4 Pure is still in development, this mean MT G82M4 is possible

https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-sho...smissions-awd/

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And I'm taking the "no manuals" position for G8x and all G22 based on the limited and inconclusive info I have right now.
Nail, meet coffin.

Seems like BMW is in a bit of turmoil currently given leadership changes.

But...in my heart...I still have hope.

And, if not, I'll hang on to my current BMWs and perhaps get past my "mid-life crisis" perception of 911s. . (No offense!)
Mid life crisis? All I see is old dudes driving Porsche's with one foot in the grave. No offense
Mainly because they are the only ones who can afford them.
I agree with this somewhat. I also think that the younger people who can afford a 911 need something more practical so they will spend that 120k on something else. Hence why you see a ton of 40 year olds driving Range Rover Supercharged.
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Lol I was driving around in a 2020 Carrera S in Germany yesterday. So many pathetic M3s, Golfs etc. challenged me and I just laughed at them and continued strolling at speed limit. I am 32, btw. I'm not going to risk anyone's life on public roads
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Lol I was driving around in a 2020 Carrera S in Germany yesterday. So many pathetic M3s, Golfs etc. challenged me and I just laughed at them and continued strolling at speed limit. I am 32, btw. I'm not going to risk anyone's life on public roads
Seriously, the whole "challenging" thing is so stupid. This isn't The Fast and the Furious.
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What if the manual is only offered on a limited run special edition type car? That would explain the ynguldyn's confusion around the manual option and saying there won't be any manuals and Flasch saying there will be a manual.
How about ynguldyn isn't Nostradamus and the next gen will have a Manual.
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How about ynguldyn isn't Nostradamus and the next gen will have a Manual.
It's not about being Nostradamus, it's that he has access to future model information. He's not psychically predicting this stuff, he's just repeating what he sees or is being told. So we'll just have to wait and see how it all plays out.
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How about ynguldyn isn't Nostradamus and the next gen will have a Manual.
It's not about being Nostradamus, it's that he has access to future model information. He's not psychically predicting this stuff, he's just repeating what he sees or is being told. So we'll just have to wait and see how it all plays out.
My point was he's not the be all end all BMW overlord.

Just saying
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Lol I was driving around in a 2020 Carrera S in Germany yesterday. So many pathetic M3s, Golfs etc. challenged me and I just laughed at them and continued strolling at speed limit. I am 32, btw. I'm not going to risk anyone's life on public roads
Seriously, the whole "challenging" thing is so stupid. This isn't The Fast and the Furious.
Exactly. I roll my eyes when this happens to me. Want to race? Take it to the track and do it in a safe setting designed for that purpose.
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