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      09-18-2019, 07:53 PM   #177
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Do the 10%+ off MSRP and rebates/incentives apply for purchasing or lease only?

Thinking of getting a loaner 4k mi 330i for approx 40k, has: convenience pack, LCP. How much do you guys think it's worth, or would you go ahead and purchase brand new? I configured one for $50k, with 10%+ off, and another 2k in loyalty incentive, that would mean I should only pay $43k + Tax and Reg right? Seems like it would be a better deal to shell out the extra $3k and purchase brand new than to buy a "used" car.

1 more thing.. I got a quote from my local credit union (socal), dealer is asking if I could finance with BMWFS, do you think the rates will be better and worth applying for?
I would personally never get a loaner vehicle. Probably been bashed on for those 4K miles it's been used by the 100s of ppl who've been in it.

Get the new one if you got the money. Finance it through who gets you a better deal.
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      09-18-2019, 11:54 PM   #178
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You guys think this is a good deal?

Got quoted for my 2020 340i (September), what do you guys think of this deal?

MSRP + Handling = $62,920
Sale price = $56,209
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      09-19-2019, 01:14 AM   #179
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Trying to lease my father a 330i. How does this look?

2019 330i 36mo/10k lease

MSRP $45,945
Discount $3,600
Incentives (on top of discount) $2,750
Selling Price: $39,595
Residual 61%
MF 0.00128
$0 down payment
Dealer Fees $234 ($85 doc + Phantom Footprint)
DMV Fees $458
Upfront Taxes $269
Drive-Off $1,435 (inc. 1st payment)
Monthly Payment before tax $435
Monthly Payment after 9% tax $474
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      09-19-2019, 04:53 AM   #180
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Trying to lease my father a 330i. How does this look?

2019 330i 36mo/10k lease

MSRP $45,945
Discount $3,600
Incentives (on top of discount) $2,750
Selling Price: $39,595
Residual 61%
MF 0.00128
$0 down payment
Dealer Fees $234 ($85 doc + Phantom Footprint)
DMV Fees $458
Upfront Taxes $269
Drive-Off $1,435 (inc. 1st payment)
Monthly Payment before tax $435
Monthly Payment after 9% tax $474
I would push for another $1k off in discount. As it stands you're less than 8% off MSRP.

Otherwise I would also consider putting down some MSD's to bring that money factor down.

Besides that everything else looks good.
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      09-19-2019, 11:25 AM   #181
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I would push for another $1k off in discount. As it stands you're less than 8% off MSRP.

Otherwise I would also consider putting down some MSD's to bring that money factor down.

Besides that everything else looks good.
Thanks. Have considered MSDs as well. They were willing to take another $1k off the price if the MF was increased to 0.00168 which basically ends up with the same monthly payment so it’s a wash. Just more interest payment instead of depreciation.
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      09-19-2019, 01:52 PM   #182
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Trying to lease my father a 330i. How does this look?

2019 330i 36mo/10k lease

MSRP $45,945
Discount $3,600
Incentives (on top of discount) $2,750
Selling Price: $39,595
Residual 61%
MF 0.00128
$0 down payment
Dealer Fees $234 ($85 doc + Phantom Footprint)
DMV Fees $458
Upfront Taxes $269
Drive-Off $1,435 (inc. 1st payment)
Monthly Payment before tax $435
Monthly Payment after 9% tax $474
You should be able to get much better.

For reference, mines is a 2019 which I got a few weeks ago with MSRP of 50k and I pay slightly more than you.

Could be since its a 2020, but literally 2019 and 2020 is the same.
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      09-19-2019, 01:58 PM   #183
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You should be able to get much better.

For reference, mines is a 2019 which I got a few weeks ago with MSRP of 50k and I pay slightly more than you.

Could be since its a 2020, but literally 2019 and 2020 is the same.
This is a 2019. Payment comparison isn't a good way to compare deals IMO. Too many other factors including local tax rate, money down, and whether you roll in up-front fees like acquisition.
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      09-19-2019, 02:07 PM   #184
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This is a 2019. Payment comparison isn't a good way to compare deals IMO. Too many other factors including local tax rate, money down, and whether you roll in up-front fees like acquisition.
Misread it, thought it said 2020.

If that is the case, then like the person above said just aim for 10% off pre-incentives and base MF. So in your case try to get around 1k off more. If that isn't worth your time, then just go for it if you are happy with the deal.
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      09-20-2019, 02:03 PM   #185
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I really envy all of you guys in California with tons of dealerships with huge inventory who need to move units. Based upon my review of this thread, it seems like everyone is getting 8-12% off MSRP plus incentives. Meanwhile, here in Michigan with our three dealerships with limited inventory, the situation is ridiculous.

I recently decided I wanted to trade-in my 2016 YMB M3 for a new M340i xDrive. I found a few vehicles at two local dealerships I was interested in. The experience was...different from everyone in this thread.

Dealer No. 1: At first he wouldn't give me any information at all, kept telling me to come into the dealership. I kept pushing him. So finally he emailed me with this for a $63,120 MSRP car. $2,500 due at signing, $825 per month (including 6% Michigan sales tax). Lol. This was in response to my offer of 10% off MSRP, which would have been around $595 per month with no money down. When I responded that this made no sense, as it appears that you'd have to go ABOVE MSRP to get to $825 per month, his only response was "how do you want me to proceed." When I told him that I wanted an explanation of how you could possible come up with those numbers, he simply stopped responding to me.

Dealer No. 2. Never even got to talking price, because I wanted to get a ballpark estimate of the trade-in for my M3. They said depending on condition, they would offer $35,000 - $36,000. KBB is $42,000. Again, when I asked for why so low, given that they would turn around and sell it for $45,000, no response.

The lack of customer service here is crazy. Apparently they have a line of people begging to get ripped off. I guess my only choice is to wait until the spring and sell the M3 myself, then go outside Michigan to find a new car. It's a shame. Anyone else have similar Michigan experiences? Everyone I see in here seems to be from California / East Coast.
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      09-20-2019, 02:14 PM   #186
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I really envy all of you guys in California with tons of dealerships with huge inventory who need to move units. Based upon my review of this thread, it seems like everyone is getting 8-12% off MSRP plus incentives. Meanwhile, here in Michigan with our three dealerships with limited inventory, the situation is ridiculous.

I recently decided I wanted to trade-in my 2016 YMB M3 for a new M340i xDrive. I found a few vehicles at two local dealerships I was interested in. The experience was...different from everyone in this thread.

Dealer No. 1: At first he wouldn't give me any information at all, kept telling me to come into the dealership. I kept pushing him. So finally he emailed me with this for a $63,120 MSRP car. $2,500 due at signing, $825 per month (including 6% Michigan sales tax). Lol. This was in response to my offer of 10% off MSRP, which would have been around $595 per month with no money down. When I responded that this made no sense, as it appears that you'd have to go ABOVE MSRP to get to $825 per month, his only response was "how do you want me to proceed." When I told him that I wanted an explanation of how you could possible come up with those numbers, he simply stopped responding to me.

Dealer No. 2. Never even got to talking price, because I wanted to get a ballpark estimate of the trade-in for my M3. They said depending on condition, they would offer $35,000 - $36,000. KBB is $42,000. Again, when I asked for why so low, given that they would turn around and sell it for $45,000, no response.

The lack of customer service here is crazy. Apparently they have a line of people begging to get ripped off. I guess my only choice is to wait until the spring and sell the M3 myself, then go outside Michigan to find a new car. It's a shame. Anyone else have similar Michigan experiences? Everyone I see in here seems to be from California / East Coast.
if you need help getting an m340 for a lot cheaper than that, and basically the same if not better than most of the good deals posted on this thread. i have a few brokers that i'm good friends with and can take care of you. PM me and ill give you my number etc.
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      09-20-2019, 02:19 PM   #187
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I really envy all of you guys in California with tons of dealerships with huge inventory who need to move units. Based upon my review of this thread, it seems like everyone is getting 8-12% off MSRP plus incentives. Meanwhile, here in Michigan with our three dealerships with limited inventory, the situation is ridiculous.

I recently decided I wanted to trade-in my 2016 YMB M3 for a new M340i xDrive. I found a few vehicles at two local dealerships I was interested in. The experience was...different from everyone in this thread.

Dealer No. 1: At first he wouldn't give me any information at all, kept telling me to come into the dealership. I kept pushing him. So finally he emailed me with this for a $63,120 MSRP car. $2,500 due at signing, $825 per month (including 6% Michigan sales tax). Lol. This was in response to my offer of 10% off MSRP, which would have been around $595 per month with no money down. When I responded that this made no sense, as it appears that you'd have to go ABOVE MSRP to get to $825 per month, his only response was "how do you want me to proceed." When I told him that I wanted an explanation of how you could possible come up with those numbers, he simply stopped responding to me.

Dealer No. 2. Never even got to talking price, because I wanted to get a ballpark estimate of the trade-in for my M3. They said depending on condition, they would offer $35,000 - $36,000. KBB is $42,000. Again, when I asked for why so low, given that they would turn around and sell it for $45,000, no response.

The lack of customer service here is crazy. Apparently they have a line of people begging to get ripped off. I guess my only choice is to wait until the spring and sell the M3 myself, then go outside Michigan to find a new car. It's a shame. Anyone else have similar Michigan experiences? Everyone I see in here seems to be from California / East Coast.
Check out Leasehackr.com or there are a bunch of dealers on this website that will sell you the car for a fair price and you can have it shipped to you or go for PCD (Performance Center Delivery) which is in South Carolina and you can fly there, have some fun at the PCD and drive the car home.

There's nothing wrong with buying from out of state - some can even bill you for the right taxes and register your car in your state (usually that works for dealers in states close to you).

I live in VA, bought my car from a MD dealer
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      09-20-2019, 02:54 PM   #188
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I really envy all of you guys in California with tons of dealerships with huge inventory who need to move units. Based upon my review of this thread, it seems like everyone is getting 8-12% off MSRP plus incentives. Meanwhile, here in Michigan with our three dealerships with limited inventory, the situation is ridiculous.

I recently decided I wanted to trade-in my 2016 YMB M3 for a new M340i xDrive. I found a few vehicles at two local dealerships I was interested in. The experience was...different from everyone in this thread.

Dealer No. 1: At first he wouldn't give me any information at all, kept telling me to come into the dealership. I kept pushing him. So finally he emailed me with this for a $63,120 MSRP car. $2,500 due at signing, $825 per month (including 6% Michigan sales tax). Lol. This was in response to my offer of 10% off MSRP, which would have been around $595 per month with no money down. When I responded that this made no sense, as it appears that you'd have to go ABOVE MSRP to get to $825 per month, his only response was "how do you want me to proceed." When I told him that I wanted an explanation of how you could possible come up with those numbers, he simply stopped responding to me.

Dealer No. 2. Never even got to talking price, because I wanted to get a ballpark estimate of the trade-in for my M3. They said depending on condition, they would offer $35,000 - $36,000. KBB is $42,000. Again, when I asked for why so low, given that they would turn around and sell it for $45,000, no response.

The lack of customer service here is crazy. Apparently they have a line of people begging to get ripped off. I guess my only choice is to wait until the spring and sell the M3 myself, then go outside Michigan to find a new car. It's a shame. Anyone else have similar Michigan experiences? Everyone I see in here seems to be from California / East Coast.
Check out Leasehackr.com or there are a bunch of dealers on this website that will sell you the car for a fair price and you can have it shipped to you or go for PCD (Performance Center Delivery) which is in South Carolina and you can fly there, have some fun at the PCD and drive the car home.

There's nothing wrong with buying from out of state - some can even bill you for the right taxes and register your car in your state (usually that works for dealers in states close to you).

I live in VA, bought my car from a MD dealer
+1, I'm in Ohio and have realized that I'll likely have to buy from DC area, NJ, or CA and do PCD. I'm only about 7 hours from the performance center so that will work well and looks like an awesome way to take delivery.
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      09-21-2019, 12:59 PM   #189
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So, I'm still trying to get something done. Suddenly the dealer is collapsing into a more reasonable range (not quite there yet). But I do have a question re: cash due at signing fees. I haven't leased in a while, but some of these fees seem bogus. Would appreciate any feedback re: which are legit, and which are BS.

Title Fee: $16.00
Plate Transfer: $57.00
Acquisition Fee: $925.00
Doc Fee: $220.00
CVR: $24.00
Cap Reduction Tax: $196.28
Use Tax: $14.64
Acq Tax: $55.50
Customer Cash as Cap Reduction: $271.33
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Leased a 2020 M340i today for $599 with $2500 due at signing. MSRP was 61k. I'm happy with the deal. PM me if you are looking for a SA in the SouthEast.
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Just signed off on a factory order for a 2020 M340i xDrive.

MSRP: $67720 including destination
Selling price: $59k (~11% off)
Loyalty + lease cash incentives (Will fill out form for BMW CCA $500 rebate)
.00128 MF (.00093 after MSDs)
36 months / 10k miles per year

$599 monthly payment including NYC taxes
$2000 drive off
$4200 max MSDs

Dealer provided a list of available port installed options so I'm asking them for pricing and will add them to the order (all season floor mats, carbon fiber spoiler, m rear trim, rear diffuser, rocker blades, front splitter, m performance exhaust).
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Ordered!! 2020 BMW M340i XDrive

Finally Done with this deal!
Car is ordered, requested Germany build.
Negotiated selling price before any Rebates/Incentives ended up being 10.5% below MSRP.
And with a smaller Dealer Doc Fee than others, this felt more than fair to me. I am extremely happy.

2020 BMW M340i XDrive:
MSRP: $67,120
36 Months / 10K Miles
Monthly Payment: $548 ($522 Pre-Tax)
Drive-Off Amount: $2500
Additional Drive-Off: $3850 for max of 7ea MSDs
MF: Base rate of 0.00128 - Reduced to 0.00093 w/ MSDs
Residual: 61%
Incentives: $3250 (BMW - $1K Lease Credit / $1K Conquest / $1K Test Drive Event / $250 USAA)

Region/Taxes: Mississippi / 5%
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Just signed off on a factory order for a 2020 M340i xDrive.

MSRP: $67k including destination
Selling price: $59k (~11% off)
Loyalty + lease cash incentives (Will fill out form for BMW CCA $500 rebate)
.00128 MF (.00093 after MSDs)
36 months / 10k miles per year

$599 monthly payment including NYC taxes
$2000 drive off
$4200 max MSDs

Dealer provided a list of available port installed options so I'm asking them for pricing and will add them to the order (all season floor mats, carbon fiber spoiler, m rear trim, rear diffuser, rocker blades, front splitter, m performance exhaust).
I think I'm right there with you, (I just posted my deal as well), except I think I am probably a little luckier with lower taxes. Otherwise, very close deals.

Congrats, and I can't wait to see how those add-ons look.

Also, when do we need to sign up for the BMW CCA rebate? I put my deposit down today, but won't sign anything until the last day of the month.
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I think I'm right there with you, (I just posted my deal as well), except I think I am probably a little luckier with lower taxes. Otherwise, very close deals.

Congrats, and I can't wait to see how those add-ons look.

Also, when do we need to sign up for the BMW CCA rebate? I put my deposit down today, but won't sign anything until the last day of the month.
Nice! Yeah pretty much the same deal as me except you benefit from the lower tax. My MSRP was slightly higher at $67720 and I didn't make too big of a fight with the additional fees.

As for the CCA rebate, I've been a member for a while now so I think I just need to fill out the form within 60 days of picking up the car. I'm not sure when you need to purchase the 3 year membership if you haven't been a member though.
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Just signed off on a factory order for a 2020 M340i xDrive.

MSRP: $67k including destination
Selling price: $59k (~11% off)
Loyalty + lease cash incentives (Will fill out form for BMW CCA $500 rebate)
.00128 MF (.00093 after MSDs)
36 months / 10k miles per year

$599 monthly payment including NYC taxes
$2000 drive off
$4200 max MSDs

Dealer provided a list of available port installed options so I'm asking them for pricing and will add them to the order (all season floor mats, carbon fiber spoiler, m rear trim, rear diffuser, rocker blades, front splitter, m performance exhaust).
I think I'm right there with you, (I just posted my deal as well), except I think I am probably a little luckier with lower taxes. Otherwise, very close deals.

Congrats, and I can't wait to see how those add-ons look.

Also, when do we need to sign up for the BMW CCA rebate? I put my deposit down today, but won't sign anything until the last day of the month.
You'll just need to get the three year membership by the time you sign the paperwork to start the lease. I think you can technically do it the day of the transaction, but I would do it a day or two ahead of time just to be sure.
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September 2019 Lease Program:

M340i (2020MY)
15k miles / 58% residual
12k miles / 60% residual
10k miles / 61% residual

$1000 lease credit
$2,500 finance credit
$2,000 loyalty credit
I'm looking on BMW and for the m340i, they currently have 1,000 lease credit and 1,000 loyalty/conquest credit; what am I missing - or did it change since Sept update?
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Just signed off on a factory order for a 2020 M340i xDrive.

MSRP: $67720 including destination
Selling price: $59k (~11% off)
Loyalty + lease cash incentives (Will fill out form for BMW CCA $500 rebate)
.00128 MF (.00093 after MSDs)
36 months / 10k miles per year

$599 monthly payment including NYC taxes
$2000 drive off
$4200 max MSDs

Dealer provided a list of available port installed options so I'm asking them for pricing and will add them to the order (all season floor mats, carbon fiber spoiler, m rear trim, rear diffuser, rocker blades, front splitter, m performance exhaust).
You live in NYC and was able to do MSDs? Where did you go ? Please share. Thanks.
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I think I'm right there with you, (I just posted my deal as well), except I think I am probably a little luckier with lower taxes. Otherwise, very close deals.

Congrats, and I can't wait to see how those add-ons look.

Also, when do we need to sign up for the BMW CCA rebate? I put my deposit down today, but won't sign anything until the last day of the month.
Nice! Yeah pretty much the same deal as me except you benefit from the lower tax. My MSRP was slightly higher at $67720 and I didn't make too big of a fight with the additional fees.

As for the CCA rebate, I've been a member for a while now so I think I just need to fill out the form within 60 days of picking up the car. I'm not sure when you need to purchase the 3 year membership if you haven't been a member though.
You need to purchase a 3 yr membership and you have to get it within 15 days after you purchase your car.
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