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      01-20-2017, 07:12 PM   #67
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Not even a full day in office and he's already raising taxes on middle-class homebuyers.

People will quickly learn they voted against their own personal interests. QUICKLY!!!

Trump..... "transferring power from Washington, D.C., and giving it back to you, the people." This is already becoming a joke.
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Not even a full day in office and he's already raising taxes on middle-class homebuyers.

People will quickly learn they voted against their own personal interests. QUICKLY!!!

Trump..... "transferring power from Washington, D.C., and giving it back to you, the people." This is already becoming a joke.
People should really get their information correct. No taxes were raised on anyone. A rate-cut for mortgages that was supposed to go into effect on Jan 27th was cancelled. No change, no tax increase.
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People should really get their information correct. No taxes were raised on anyone. A rate-cut for mortgages that was supposed to go into effect on Jan 27th was cancelled. No change, no tax increase.
Yep, not raising taxes but not helping borrowers or the middle class.
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Trump will be a one-term president, IF he doesn't get impeached. Trump might have a few good ideas regarding changing some long overdue things, but I believe his incredibly poor character will eventually bring him down as President.

And what were those character traits?: Lying, cheating, groping, bullying, draft-dodging, multiple bankruptcies? And oh yeah, bullying if I forgot to mention it.

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Trump will be a one-term president, IF he doesn't get impeached. Trump might have a few good ideas regarding changing some long overdue things, but I believe his incredibly poor character will eventually bring him down as President.

And what were those character traits?: Lying, cheating, groping, bullying, draft-dodging, multiple bankruptcies? And oh yeah, bullying if I forgot to mention it.

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You were talking about two-term Bill Clinton- right?
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Yep, not raising taxes but not helping borrowers or the middle class.
You mean like Obama allowed those Bush tax cuts to expire...?
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And what were those character traits?: Lying, cheating, groping, bullying, draft-dodging, multiple bankruptcies? And oh yeah, bullying if I forgot to mention it.

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You mean like Obama allowed those Bush tax cuts to expire...?
Yep, tax cuts that benefited the rich. Obama said he was going to do that. Nevermind the eventual compromise was supported by a majority of Republicans when it passed.

Trump campaigned on helping the middle class. So far not so good.

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Yep, tax cuts that benefited the rich. Obama said he was going to do that. Nevermind the eventual compromise was supported by a majority of Republicans when it passed.

Trump campaigned on helping the middle class. So far not so good.
Really amazing!!! Trump has been president for less than 12 hours and he has already been labeled a failure. Really amazing!!
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Really amazing!!! Trump has been president for less than 12 hours and he has already been labeled a failure. Really amazing!!
I didn't call him a failure. Not yet at least.
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For all of you that will not give him a chance, we were forced to live with Obama for 8 years without rioting...

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Really amazing!!! Trump has been president for less than 12 hours and he has already been labeled a failure. Really amazing!!
Ignore those people.. sore losers.. they'd rather have a convict-able liar and racketeer than a guy who speaks his mind..
they'll be along for the ride back to prosperity tho.
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People should really get their information correct. No taxes were raised on anyone. A rate-cut for mortgages that was supposed to go into effect on Jan 27th was cancelled. No change, no tax increase.
Cancelled = changed = tax increase vs. tax decrease IF still in play.


Spin it anyway your heart desires....fact of the matter is Obama's tax decrease effective 1/27 was repealed.
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      01-20-2017, 11:54 PM   #80
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Cancelled = changed = tax increase vs. tax decrease IF still in play.


Spin it anyway your heart desires....fact of the matter is Obama's tax decrease effective 1/27 was repealed.
You missed my point. This has nothing to do with TAX at all.


"The move by the Department of Housing and Urban Development — one of the first acts of Trump’s administration — reversed a policy announced in the waning days of the Obama presidency that would have trimmed insurance premiums for typical borrowers by hundreds of dollars a year."


http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...120-story.html
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You missed my point. This has nothing to do with TAX at all.


"The move by the Department of Housing and Urban Development — one of the first acts of Trump’s administration — reversed a policy announced in the waning days of the Obama presidency that would have trimmed insurance premiums for typical borrowers by hundreds of dollars a year."


http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...120-story.html
Tax smax, middle class folks will spend more on mortgage insurance. Check one of the insurance companies and minus one for the middle class borrower.
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Ignore those people.. sore losers.. they'd rather have a convict-able liar and racketeer than a guy who speaks his mind..
they'll be along for the ride back to prosperity tho.
what crime is Bernie guilty of?
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You mean like Obama allowed those Bush tax cuts to expire...?
Yep, tax cuts that benefited the rich. Obama said he was going to do that. Nevermind the eventual compromise was supported by a majority of Republicans when it passed.

Trump campaigned on helping the middle class. So far not so good.
Somehow these tax cuts raised my taxes... I am far from being rich... hmm beats me
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Tax smax, middle class folks will spend more on mortgage insurance. Check one of the insurance companies and minus one for the middle class borrower.
Yeah its definitely not tax but definitely not a good thing for middle class buyers.

SakhirM4 if his friend was to close past the 27th of this month it surely would change his situation.

No one should be ready to call Trump a failure yet but you can throw this in the "didnt help the middle class" bucket.
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what crime is Bernie guilty of?
Backing Hillary! But that about it.
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Backing Hillary! But that about it.
Yes, but while holding his nose, like many dem voters did
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You completely killed me. Beer is pouring out from my eyes.

Fucking a, you kidney pie eating morron voters (we have so many here too so I feel like I am entitled to say that) may soon be exporting jam and tea, but for your sense of humor I think we should let you stay in the eu. Absolutely priceless.

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Yes, but while holding his nose, like many dem voters did
I know we ALL were put in a difficult position in this election cycle. I think most were not enamored with the decisions put before us on both sides. I think it would have been really interesting if Bernie had made the nomination. But the DNC did not want that to happen apparently, and that is not a democracy of by the people for the people....., more of a "its my turn get out of my way". This is my opinion, and only my opinion, I think I have that right to that opinion as we all do, and I fought for this right 25 or so years ago.

When Obama was elected, he was not my choice, but you know what, I backed him, because he was the elected President according to the Constitution. I wanted him to succeed, it's in our best interest. I did not agree with many of his positions, even ones that did not personally affect me, like Obamacare, but I know people who it did affect in a negative way with dramatic increases in health care and they could not keep their plans as advertised. Still, I respected his position, was he honest in advertising this policy? I don't know. What I do know is that we need to come together and let the past be the past.

We will survive as a people and a nation, no one person can bring us down.

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