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      08-02-2020, 09:11 PM   #23
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I believe all 2020 G20s are ID7. Not 100pc sure though.
I haven't seen iD7 on an 8" screen, at least yet.
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I haven't seen iD7 on an 8" screen, at least yet.
I think the cars here without nav get the smaller screen but ID7. Another user has a similar car with the smaller screen I think and he has ID7.
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I think the cars here without nav get the smaller screen but ID7. Another user has a similar car with the smaller screen I think and he has ID7.
Perhaps BMW might have changed because my car has navigation and 8" screen but it came with iD6, it was sold to me as a 2020 but according to its vin production is 03/19, I got it on octuber last year.
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Perhaps BMW might have changed because my car has navigation and 8" screen but it came with iD6, it was sold to me as a 2020 but according to its vin production is 03/19, I got it on octuber last year.
Wait. I just noticed you’re in the US. That’s weird that you have ID6 with nav. BMW has so many confusing configurations!
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      08-02-2020, 09:59 PM   #27
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Wait. I just noticed you’re in the US. That’s weird that you have ID6 with nav. BMW has so many confusing configurations!
Nope, I'm not in the us, I am in South America, we don't get most features that other countries do down here unfortunately

I just found a video that someone actually did what I originally propose in this topic, I think it's just in turkish or a weird language. So it's possible to retrofit a digital cluster, my question is, what about ID7?

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It should be possible since the base G20 here comes with ID7 but the digital analog cluster.
I found someone who actually did it, so I guess it is, check out the video above, it's in turkish though..
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I found someone who actually did it, so I guess it is, check out the video above, it's in turkish though..
https://g20.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1730375

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ID7 has replaced ID6 system for Live Cockpit and LiveCockpitPlus on all G20 cars built from July 2020.

Before, borh LC and LCP systems were running on ID6.

Both LC and LCP come with 8.8" screen. ID7 update also comes with updated analog cluster that comes with a vertical display in-between the analog dials for speed and rpms.


It's possible to buy the ID7 headunit, 10.25" screen and digital instrument cluster but it's very expensive and requires a lot of coding with potential problems and incompatibilities.

IMHO, it's not worth it.

Additionally, if you only want Android Auto, you can buy wireless Android Auto/CarPlay media box and hook it up to your ID6 headunit. It's a couple of hundreds of $, and it's simply installed.

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Additionally, if you only want Android Auto, you can buy wireless Android Auto/CarPlay media box and hook it up to your ID6 headunit. It's a couple of hundreds of $, and it's simply installed.
Thank you, I talk to my dealer and they told me that it's not possible (obviously)..

Would you mind telling me more about that media box? I really want android auto

I'm also now sure whether I have MGU with ID6 or NBT.. According to what I've read all g20s come with MGU head unit..
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Thank you, I talk to my dealer and they told me that it's not possible (obviously)..

Would you mind telling me more about that media box? I really want android auto

I'm also now sure whether I have MGU with ID6 or NBT.. According to what I've read all g20s come with MGU head unit..
This are the units that work with NBT Evo 6 systems:
US $357.59 20%OFF | ZJCGO Wireless Apple CarPlay Android Auto interface adapter BOX For BMW 3 Series F30 F31 F34 G20 G21 CIC EVO NBT System
https://a.aliexpress.com/_dYvwrmS

You just need to find the version for G20. I think the Aux sound input is the one thing that's problematic because G20 doesn't have it.
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This are the units that work with NBT Evo 6 systems:
US $357.59 20%OFF | ZJCGO Wireless Apple CarPlay Android Auto interface adapter BOX For BMW 3 Series F30 F31 F34 G20 G21 CIC EVO NBT System
https://a.aliexpress.com/_dYvwrmS

You just need to find the version for G20. I think the Aux sound input is the one thing that's problematic because G20 doesn't have it.
Thanks, I will look more on it.

According to my VIN one of these head units should be in mine, and they appear to me that they are actually MGU but running ID6 and not NBT, the only way to know would be to remove my trims and take a look at what's actually in there I guess..

https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/par...BMW-320d&mg=65
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Thanks, I will look more on it.

According to my VIN one of these head units should be in mine, and they appear to me that they are actually MGU but running ID6 and not NBT, the only way to know would be to remove my trims and take a look at what's actually in there I guess..

https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/par...BMW-320d&mg=65
Correct. G20 has EVO ID6 system
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Correct. G20 has EVO ID6 system
Ok, so I just took out the trim because I was curious to see what's in there, this is what I can see without digging dipper, doesn't look like nbt to me ��

I believe is not nbt but actually some sort mgu, what do you think?

according to this all g20s are mgu https://www.bimmer-tech.net/blog/ite...cic-nbt-nbtevo

Looks like this is the part https://www.ebay.com/itm/OEM-BMW-F30...IAAOSwkcleSlrs
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that unit looks to be Part number:
65129437389
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Head unit basic navigation 2


The MGU unit has a completely different label and is made by Harman.
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I believe all 2020 G20s are ID7. Not 100pc sure though.
Well mine isn't, as you can see from the pictures above
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Additionally, if you only want Android Auto, you can buy wireless Android Auto/CarPlay media box and hook it up to your ID6 headunit. It's a couple of hundreds of $, and it's simply installed.
There really isn't space to fit one of those mmi boxes like there is on the f30. Also, in order to remove the head unit you will have to remove the hole dash, from what I've seen everything is one hole dash and the HU is under it..
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There really isn't space to fit one of those mmi boxes like there is on the f30. Also, in order to remove the head unit you will have to remove the hole dash, from what I've seen everything is one hole dash and the HU is under it..
Official procedure to remove the headunit is described here: https://www.newtis.info/tisv2/a/en/g...nit/1Vne4Bkfvk

It's not required to remove the dashboard, but it is necessary to remove most of the center console (cup holders tray with the cover, gear lever cluster and the surrounding trim).

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Official procedure to remove the headunid is described here: https://www.newtis.info/tisv2/a/en/g...nit/1Vne4Bkfvk

It's not required to remove the dashboard, but it is to remove most of the center console.
Thank you, I'll check that.
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Official procedure to remove the headunid is described here: https://www.newtis.info/tisv2/a/en/g...nit/1Vne4Bkfvk

It's not required to remove the dashboard, but it is to remove most of the center console.
Thank you, I'll check that.
Wow they certainly made that more difficult. I could whip out an EVO in a few minutes
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I guess they've done this to help prevent theft as well - there was a spate of car thefts here where the cars were left, but the head units and screens taken
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Official procedure to remove the headunid is described here: https://www.newtis.info/tisv2/a/en/g...nit/1Vne4Bkfvk

It's not required to remove the dashboard, but it is to remove most of the center console.
Thank you, I'll check that.
Hi Juanmad were you able to do this? Or install the MMI box? I also want to do this I want to know if it's difficult to install the MMI in G20 330i or it's a simple procedure
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Hi Juanmad were you able to do this? Or install the MMI box? I also want to do this I want to know if it's difficult to install the MMI in G20 330i or it's a simple procedure
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Nope, I'm not in the us, I am in South America, we don't get most features that other countries do down here unfortunately

I just found a video that someone actually did what I originally propose in this topic, I think it's just in turkish or a weird language. So it's possible to retrofit a digital cluster, my question is, what about ID7?

They are from Turkey, What basically he is saying is, it is possible to run the cluster with idrive 6 , because the middle part of the cluster originally shows the map, that requires MGU to activate the feature. Other than the MAP feature, everything going to be working without an issue with the iDrive 6.

They later want to try some sort of tricks from Idrive 6 to cluster via Ethernet connection to grab map connection without needing MGU but i doubt it.

My G20 came with idrive 7 and digital cluster, but i am planning to get F90 either PreLCI or LCI. If i somehow ended up getting PreLCI, i will be all over to upgrade both iDrive 6 and cluster to newer modules.

MGU will be real tricky to retrofit i believe.
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