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      04-25-2020, 01:31 AM   #67
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I've just received my G20 with Live Cockpit Plus and ACC.
It has hybrid cockpit like in https://g20.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...0&postcount=58

Is it possible to have digital speedometer in all drive modes?
To my understanding its the same as in F30. You only see digital speed in cluster when in sport mode. And that is just stupid because speed is the only thing I want to know when driving around daily.
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      08-02-2020, 02:34 AM   #68
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there appears to be even a 4th cluster, check this one out

https://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/d...d-a8c28e2b3fa7
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      08-02-2020, 04:30 AM   #69
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there appears to be even a 4th cluster, check this one out

https://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/d...d-a8c28e2b3fa7
This is the updated Live Cockpit (LC) and Live Cockpit Plus (LCP) analog instrument cluster introduced in cars built from July 2020.

With this update, BMW also upgraded the iDrive for LC and LCP systems to iDrive 7 (previously they were running on iDrive 6).

This updated allowed Harman Kardon sound system to be independent standalone option which can now be ordered with all LiveCockpit versions. Previously it could only be ordered with expensive LiveCockpit Professional because it was the only LC version running on iDrive 7.

One of the benefits of iDrive7 are over-the-air updates and wireless Android Auto and Carplay.

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      08-02-2020, 09:15 PM   #70
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Good afternoon
Does anyone have a picture of the BMW's Live Cockpit Plus? Is it analog- digital like the cluster in a 530e or G30 530i 6WA option or is it all the way analog?

The material I have seen shows it is like the 530e cluster but I am not sure.

I have not seen the car (nor the clusters as only the 330i MSport with Pro is available here to check out), and I have around a month to decide between this and Live Cockpit Pro.

There are 3 different forms of instrument cluster
Live Cockpit (analog)
Live Cockpit Plus (don't know)
Live Cockpit Pro (fully digital)

Need help, kind regards.
Hi Carlos, I`m from Brazil. I had a 320i Sport G20 with analog cluster. is it possible to display the digital speed on this display by coding? Or change the hours or temperature for the Speed?
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      08-03-2020, 03:54 AM   #71
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there appears to be even a 4th cluster, check this one out

https://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/d...d-a8c28e2b3fa7
oh thats nice. I wish they would enable a digital instrument cluster that looks nice and clear and with clockwise for tacho like that!!
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      08-03-2020, 09:50 AM   #72
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oh thats nice. I wish they would enable a digital instrument cluster that looks nice and clear and with clockwise for tacho like that!!
Exactly. BMW has one of the worst digital clusters ever, especially when it comes to customization.
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      08-27-2020, 06:22 AM   #73
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there appears to be even a 4th cluster, check this one out

https://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/d...d-a8c28e2b3fa7
My G21 330E is planned for delivery beginning of October. When I ordered it, the sales guy confirmed I would get the digital 12" display despite my selection of live cockpit plus as he said all hybrids receive the digital clusters anyway. Now I haven't seen many 330e with live cockpit plus and was wondering if the statement of the sales guy still stands. When I open up the configurator now, I see the new cluster above instead of the digital one (which was shown on my configuration back in February). Anyone got a clue what I will be receiving?
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      08-27-2020, 05:10 PM   #74
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This is the updated Live Cockpit (LC) and Live Cockpit Plus (LCP) analog instrument cluster introduced in cars built from July 2020.

With this update, BMW also upgraded the iDrive for LC and LCP systems to iDrive 7 (previously they were running on iDrive 6).

This updated allowed Harman Kardon sound system to be independent standalone option which can now be ordered with all LiveCockpit versions. Previously it could only be ordered with expensive LiveCockpit Professional because it was the only LC version running on iDrive 7.

One of the benefits of iDrive7 are over-the-air updates and wireless Android Auto and Carplay.
Oh that is nice! I wonder what it would take to swap a Live Cockpit Pro car to this analog cluster? I saw that the old basic cluster was a bit above a grand in parts, so it would be an expensive mod for sure but perhaps worth it for some. Near six months in and I still don't like the Live Cockpit Pro...
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Oh that is nice! I wonder what it would take to swap a Live Cockpit Pro car to this analog cluster? I saw that the old basic cluster was a bit above a grand in parts, so it would be an expensive mod for sure but perhaps worth it for some. Near six months in and I still don't like the Live Cockpit Pro...
I have a feeling it might be doable since the new analog cluster works with iDrive 7 and LCPlus(with Navi). The only thing that might be a problem is if some of the features of LCPro cannot be displayed on the new analog cluster.
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      08-28-2020, 06:29 AM   #76
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My G21 330E is planned for delivery beginning of October. When I ordered it, the sales guy confirmed I would get the digital 12" display despite my selection of live cockpit plus as he said all hybrids receive the digital clusters anyway. Now I haven't seen many 330e with live cockpit plus and was wondering if the statement of the sales guy still stands. When I open up the configurator now, I see the new cluster above instead of the digital one (which was shown on my configuration back in February). Anyone got a clue what I will be receiving?
Before July yes, all 330e included the Live Cockpit Pro.
But now they do ship 330e with Live Cockpit Plus.

Example:
https://configure.bmw.de/de_DE/confi...KA,S08TF,S09QX
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      08-28-2020, 11:33 AM   #77
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thx, just got a confirmation from the dealer I would indeed NOT receive the digital dashboard as it only goes into production next week. I was able to upgrade still today though haha. I apparently had choosen all options from the business plus pack except the professional cockpit and it was only 1000 additional to move to the complete business pack plus
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      11-16-2020, 01:44 PM   #78
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Help needed regarding the Live Cockpit Plus gauges- I am about to lease a 2021 330i xDrive in the US. It will have an analog instrument cluster. What color do the gauges light up at night? I hope for amber. I'm very curious because it's difficult to find confirmation.
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      11-16-2020, 04:44 PM   #79
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My G21 330E is planned for delivery beginning of October. When I ordered it, the sales guy confirmed I would get the digital 12" display despite my selection of live cockpit plus as he said all hybrids receive the digital clusters anyway. Now I haven't seen many 330e with live cockpit plus and was wondering if the statement of the sales guy still stands. When I open up the configurator now, I see the new cluster above instead of the digital one (which was shown on my configuration back in February). Anyone got a clue what I will be receiving?
In February it was not yet possible to configure the G21 330e. Only after the end of May.
I bought a G21 330e in early June, it was delivered on September 26th.
I had to order the Live Cockpit Plus and pay the same, as it is an option. as well as many other options that I put in my G21 330e.
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      11-16-2020, 05:10 PM   #80
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Help needed regarding the Live Cockpit Plus gauges- I am about to lease a 2021 330i xDrive in the US. It will have an analog instrument cluster. What color do the gauges light up at night? I hope for amber. I'm very curious because it's difficult to find confirmation.
My car is a 07/2019 production date. Analog cluster is white during the day and amber when it gets dark. (In comfort mode). In Sport mode, it's white at night too.

Although the analog cluster in 2021 is a bit different, I am oretty sure that the backlight logic will remain the same
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      11-17-2020, 01:57 AM   #81
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In February it was not yet possible to configure the G21 330e. Only after the end of May.
I bought a G21 330e in early June, it was delivered on September 26th.
I had to order the Live Cockpit Plus and pay the same, as it is an option. as well as many other options that I put in my G21 330e.
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That's not Live Cockpit PLUS. What you have is Live Cockpit PROFESSIONAL. The 330e only comes with PROFESSIONAL.

Live Cockpit PLUS is in the post above yours.
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That's not Live Cockpit PLUS. What you have is Live Cockpit PROFESSIONAL. The 330e only comes with PROFESSIONAL.

Live Cockpit PLUS is in the post above yours.
Yes, I confused the serial options. I apologize.
The G21 330e comes with the Live Cockpit Plus as standard and I ordered it with the Live Cockpit Professional option.
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That's not Live Cockpit PLUS. What you have is Live Cockpit PROFESSIONAL. The 330e only comes with PROFESSIONAL.
This was true until July 2020 when all Live Cockpit options were upgraded to iDrive 7.
From then, 330e doesn't need to be ordered with LC Professional. You can get it with Live Cockpit Plus.
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This was true until July 2020 when all Live Cockpit options were upgraded to iDrive 7.
From then, 330e doesn't need to be ordered with LC Professional. You can get it with Live Cockpit Plus.
What's confusing is BMW refer to the iDrive screen as LIVE COCKPIT also. As far as I'm aware, the 330e comes as standard with the full LCD instrument display (LIVE COCKPIT PROFESSIONAL) because there needs to be a way to display the extra data associated with the 330e, such as the charging state. Or are you saying it's possible to get the 330e with the analogue display?

In the press release at launch of the 330e Sedan, it said the 330e comes with LIVE COCKPIT PROFESSIONAL as standard...

https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/globa...lectrification

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What's confusing is BMW refer to the iDrive screen as LIVE COCKPIT also. As far as I'm aware, the 330e comes as standard with the full LCD instrument display (LIVE COCKPIT PROFESSIONAL) because there needs to be a way to display the extra data associated with the 330e, such as the charging state. Or are you saying it's possible to get the 330e with the analogue display?

In the press release at launch of the 330e Sedan, it said the 330e comes with LIVE COCKPIT PROFESSIONAL as standard...

https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/globa...lectrification
This was true back in March 2019, but things have changed from July 2020 when new analog instrument cluster that comes with iDrive 7 was introduced on all G20 cars. The central part of the new instrument cluster contains a larger vertical display positioned between the two analog dials. This display can handle everything related to e-drive. (This is for EU market. I don't know if UK market gets 330e with LC Professional as standard. EU cars no longer include LC Pro with 330e)
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This was true back in March 2019, but things have changed from July 2020 when new analog instrument cluster that comes with iDrive 7 was introduced on all G20 cars. The central part of the new instrument cluster contains a larger vertical display positioned between the two analog dials. This display can handle everything related to e-drive. (This is for EU market. I don't know if UK market gets 330e with LC Professional as standard. EU cars no longer include LC Pro with 330e)
Thanks for the info.

I don't know about the UK market, but in the Netherlands, Live Cockpit Pro is standard. It's part of the "High Executive" package which is included free with the 330e. So I suppose they could choose at some point to not include the "High Executive" package for free, in which case LC Pro wouldn't be standard.
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Thanks for the info.

I don't know about the UK market, but in the Netherlands, Live Cockpit Pro is standard. It's part of the "High Executive" package which is included free with the 330e. So I suppose they could choose at some point to not include the "High Executive" package for free, in which case LC Pro wouldn't be standard.
You're welcome.

That's probably specific for NL market. In Germany base 330e comes with Live Cockpit Plus from summer 2020.
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Exactly. BMW has one of the worst digital clusters ever, especially when it comes to customization.
Having just bought my car yesterday I actually like the cluster a lot but yeah the lack of customization is very annoying
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