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      07-08-2020, 02:24 PM   #265
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My f80 felt like it just drop 10 gs in depreciation. Haha so sad.
Don't worry, it already did that the moment you drove it off the lot
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No wide rear fenders for the M4? And still no hofmeister kink :/

ETA: This is looking as lame as the E36 M3 when compared to the 328.
The kink is present on both the 4 and the 3.
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The kink is present on both the 4 and the 3.
To be fair, the shape seen on the new 4 Series has the Hofmeister Kink pulling in the opposite/reverse direction so it's definitely a new design reinterpretation that can be seen by some as an abandonment of the design feature.

Of course, BMW themselves say it's still there.
In a live interview from this morning, exterior designer Christopher Weil was confronted with the question of the Hofmeister Kink, to which he admitted that it differs from the shape that is 'normally' expected, but that it's still present, just in a reversed shape.
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I think the G80 M3 can be a great daily driver instead of a boring SUV. A potential M4 CSL sounds interesting if it is priced correctly. Example: A $150k M4 won't sell good. Maybe in the $115k range for a M4 CSL.

I'm already seeing a bunch of overpriced M8's around.
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I think the G80 M3 can be a great daily driver instead of a boring SUV. A potential M4 CSL sounds interesting if it is priced correctly. Example: A $150k M4 won't sell good. Maybe in the $115k range for a M4 CSL.

I'm already seeing a bunch of overpriced M8's around.
I highly doubt they will make a CSL in volumes sufficient for that price. If they make it which is a very large if it will most likely be a very limited run and prices will be accordingly if you can even get one. CSL is BMWs most legendary badge, they won’t mess around with it.
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CSL is BMWs most legendary badge, they won't mess around with it.
As much as I agree with this, BMW has done a lot of stupid s**t as of late. I wouldn't be surprised if they screwed it up.
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As much as I agree with this, BMW has done a lot of stupid s**t as of late. I wouldn't be surprised if they screwed it up.
The M4 GTS was overpriced for the market.
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The M4 GTS was overpriced for the market.
I don't think it was actually overpriced for the market. Rather, it was targeted at a certain market of a more wealthy type of BMW connoisseur. If I had that kind of money I would have bought it b/c why not?
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As much as I agree with this, BMW has done a lot of stupid s**t as of late. I wouldn't be surprised if they screwed it up.
I agree that there’s been a lot badge wh*ring but always with one exception...CSL. If they been able to resist this far to put it on something unworthy I think the odds it’s good that they won’t put it on a hum-hum “special” model for $115k.

Naturally no new model can immediately reach the status of the former models but I’m pretty sure they will go all out to try and it won’t be cheap...I put my bet on that it won’t happen though, that the target is too lofty to not risk the halo of the badge deservedly earned.
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