[MacklinUSOB]

Originally Posted by praxis218

I seriously doubt it, all of the the M-Performance cars (like the X3 M40i, X4 M40i) are like this now. There was a PowerPoint slide posted a while back that listed the stratification of base cars, M-Performance cars, and different tiers of M cars going forward.

It's seriously unfortunate they're strapping performance models to luxury centric options. I also doubt their proclaimed weight savings on the platform is representative of a car you can actually buy in NA knowing this strategy.

[Blubaron79]

Originally Posted by undecided

The damn nav is the same nav as in every other kia/hyundai. It looks like idrive's poor cousin from National Lampoon's Xmas Vacation.

Disagree. BMW's nav is one of the better ones out there.

[Funk0701]

How much more for a Manual 6MT?

[am3r1ka]

Originally Posted by Kevinduma

Man just imagine what the M440i coupe and Gran Coupe will be

Yeah definitely will catch a depreciated one

[msmching]

Didn't finish reading all the post but the first few that talks about closing in the range of m3... that's comparing with the old m3, technically.

Not rich, but I think the price seems to be reasonable. Like some say, m3/4's price aren't going to be pretty as well, since they are gonna have to pull the pricing apart with the m340.

[Triharderken]

Originally Posted by RPM90

So the RWD M340i should be around $55K base and doesn't even include leather and/or the better audio system.

I don't need nor want the lux accessories like NAV, or digital dash, or even the "driver aids". My needs are simple, all of the "sport" items that make for the best driving capability and a good sounding audio system. I'll bet BMW does the stupid again, by forcing buyers to get some expensive "premium pkg" in order to get a $900 audio upgrade, making the $900 audio upgrade cost $4000 plus.

Well, as much as I like what I see about the new M340i, BMW has worked their magic by which to lose my future customership.

Hmm....what is the Genesis website again, with the G70, S. Korea may get a new immigrant to their car brand.

Orrrr just wait for integralaudio.com to come out with their next G20 option for better sound and audio quality...

[Blubaron79]

Originally Posted by NH_F36

Audi was not reporting US Spec HP using european numbers instead, your number has since been revised down.

The 340 with the power kit already outruns the S4

[jlstyle]

$55k base price for 3er? LOL

[Araemo]

Originally Posted by ThatKrazyPolak

Wow what a joke, they just shot themselves in the foot. Whats stopping somebody from buying an M3 at that price point, especially with some of the additional features you'd want added? There goes that plan for me. This is really stupid I'm actually pissed.

Let's see, previously, similarly equipped 340iX vs M3 was a $20k difference.

This is $7k higher base price, but you get the m sport brakes, which cost $1400 before.. so more like a $5k price increase.

So, $15k is what's stopping people from buying an M3. (assuming the M3 price doesn't go up too, which it probably will).

The goal in the end is to have a car at every price point, so no matter what price you can pay (within reason), you can get a car that feels like you got 'more' than the cheaper one, but still leaves you longing for the more expensive one so you want to buy it later.

[jwr0721]

Basically, I've realized reading the comments around here that this is not actually a website for BMW fans ... it's a website for BMW haters.

Don't like the car? Don't buy it. I'm sure BMW will miss you 🙄

[FadyDizzle]

I guess those Trump tariffs are really hitting them hard :-/

[Kristalov]

Originally Posted by ThatKrazyPolak

Wow what a joke, they just shot themselves in the foot. Whats stopping somebody from buying an M3 at that price point, especially with some of the additional features you'd want added? There goes that plan for me. This is really stupid I'm actually pissed.

The real question is what will new model M3's start at down the road?

[bjcarls]

Not too bad. Wife's '17 had a MSRP of $62k flat (details below), plus the MPPK kit for a $2,500 after it hit the dealer, so this seems inline, we were at $64,500'ish.

Base: $47,800
Paint: $550, Dakota, $1450, Cold $800, Driver $950, Driver Plus $1,700, LED $800, M-Sport $2600, Tech $2750, Track Handling $1700, M-Sport 19" $900 for $62k.



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[shoptb]

Originally Posted by pheerIx

I got my almost loaded X3 M40i for $55k

Same here.

[Eric500]

My annual raises are not keeping up with these price hikes LOL. I paid 55k after discounts on a 2017 X5 with premium and hk and smaller items...

Looks like I'll probably be waiting for a 1-2 year old used one that will take a 30%+ depreciation hit.

As someone said above, if I don't like it, BMW won't be missing me. They'll probably catch me on the CPO end though later

[Araemo]

Originally Posted by shoptb

Same here.

But what was its MSRP? I mean, I got my car for way under MSRP too, and I assume that will still be possible. But the only worthwhile comparison here is MSRP to MSRP, not MSRP to 'out the door real world price'.

[M3GymNut]

Originally Posted by Blubaron79

Disagree. BMW's nav is one of the better ones out there.

I don't know if BMW has updated it but the NAV in my 2015 F80 is horrible. Sending me on longer routes and just is a waste and takes you in weird directions.

[M3GymNut]

Historically the M340i is about how much under the same generation M3? Like by about $10k-$12k?

[M3GymNut]

Originally Posted by NYC_340i

Well this is inflation that can apply to anything and every car so I don't find the point of comparing the price of a 1989 car to a 2018 car. $56k in 1989 is around $110k today which aligns with a nicely optioned 7 series today. A 2000 330ci started at $34k so it's not far off the M340i price today adjusted for inflation.

The way I took his post was that he was just going down memory lane about his grandfathers car to just at the end of it say how inflation has gone up. I highly doubt he was comparing cars directly...

[440xiGCMSport2]

BMW will discount these cars no doubt. The big price increase combined with sedan sales just means big discounts or BMW will sit on stock. Also more and more people are buying electric which will dampen sales.

[JRobUSC]

My 2016 340i xDrive was $62k. It was loaded (M Sport, Track Pack, Premium Pack, Cold Weather, Driver Assist, Technology, etc.), but I didn't get lane departure warning or blind spot monitoring, and several things weren't available that are on the new one, like LSD, sensatec dash, hands free driving, digital cluster, and probably a handful of other items I'd have to go through the ordering guide to figure out.

I can't really "build" my car to be comparable to the new one since I couldn't get LSD, sensatec dash, digital cluster, etc., but had those items been available on my car I would have gotten them. They'd have added at least a few grand to the price, which it looks like is pretty much what a comparable 2020 M340i xDrive will be. For a four model year newer vehicle, that doesn't seem out of line. It's right on top of what a C43 AMG runs, and only marginally more than a comparable S4, which this should pretty easily outclass in both tech and performance. What will the 2020 S4 cost, especially if Audi updates it to keep pace with BMW and Mercedes? I don't care if a Hyundai is cheaper. If you do, go buy one. You think Porsche cares that their cars are more expensive than other brands?

All this hate over a car no one on here has driven or ridden in, and 99.999% haven't even seen. Sometimes I think the best thing that could happen to BMW would be for all the haters on here to follow through with their threats to leave the brand.

[claykin]

Originally Posted by M3GymNut

I don't know if BMW has updated it but the NAV in my 2015 F80 is horrible. Sending me on longer routes and just is a waste and takes you in weird directions.

No matter how BMW or any OEM updates their Nav, it'll never be as good as what you'd get from Google or Apple. Until such time that they smarten up and install an Android or iOS tablet on the dash.

At this point they're better off staying out of the route guidance business and just natively support Android Auto and Apple Carplay.