Official: A New Dimension. The First BMW M3 Touring Confirmed.

slowbart · 08-13-2020, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by ADEe92

You can effectively get a M340i in Australia by buying an Alpina B3 wagon. I think that bringing in only the 330i was a deliberate move by Australian dealers to leave a little space in the market for the Alpina.

The M3 wagon may well make its way here, if not there is always the B3.

Supposedly confirmed for Aus:
https://www.caradvice.com.au/872872/...-works-report/

Ghostriderf80 · 08-13-2020, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Macphisto

If I had the money... this...

It's a huge car, what i find really funny is America w the ultra low speed limits and 200 mph cars. LOL... Is there actually a way for you guys to drive them this fast without a full helicopter chase?

Ghostriderf80 · 08-13-2020, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Macphisto

If I had the money... this...

It's a huge car, what i find really funny is America w the ultra low speed limits and 200 mph cars. LOL... Is there actually a way for you guys to drive them this fast without a full helicopter chase?

renescx · 08-13-2020, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by GERMAN M3

FINALLY!! Now, let's just see if it comes to the states.

unfortunately i don't think so

. They canceled better sold cars from the North American market, they will leave only Alpina as an Touring alternative

!

Nugget · 08-13-2020, 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ADEe92

You can effectively get a M340i in Australia by buying an Alpina B3 wagon. I think that bringing in only the 330i was a deliberate move by Australian dealers to leave a little space in the market for the Alpina.

The M3 wagon may well make its way here, if not there is always the B3.

I've been seriously considering the Alpina but it comes with less power and softer suspension.

Nugget · 08-13-2020, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by slowbart

Supposedly confirmed for Aus:
https://www.caradvice.com.au/872872/...-works-report/

It must have been the email I sent to my dealer this morning that made them confirm it

GerryM5 · 08-13-2020, 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghostriderf80

It's a huge car, what i find really funny is America w the ultra low speed limits and 200 mph cars. LOL... Is there actually a way for you guys to drive them this fast without a full helicopter chase?

Good point, but you forget that we bought into the "Ultimate Diving Experience."

Mani59 · 08-13-2020, 02:55 AM

Here is Autocar's impression of it:

sm32589g · 08-13-2020, 03:29 AM

I guess I'll have to deal with the ugly grill...I've always wanted a touring M3!

JustChris · 08-13-2020, 04:17 AM

Black Sapphire just became the ultimate under takers car.

2 coffins respectfully out front, one in the back

evanescent03 · 08-13-2020, 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghostriderf80

It's a huge car, what i find really funny is America w the ultra low speed limits and 200 mph cars. LOL... Is there actually a way for you guys to drive them this fast without a full helicopter chase?

Tracks have no speed limits ... 200 isn't really doable but 150+ is...
Also.... Mexico is surprisingly accessible from any of the states so people oftentimes take a quick trip down there when they want to do a few high speed blasts.

ntg44 · 08-13-2020, 04:57 AM

Got one eye on this. Once the aftermarket develops a front bumper fix, this could pull me away from the RS6 and save me a couple bucks. Assuming it's even coming to the US market.

mbanck · 08-13-2020, 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Mani59

Here is Autocar's impression of it:

Hrm, yeah, the BMW pic doesn't have an X3M style roof spoiler, so maybe it was just a rendering after all.

mmic77 · 08-13-2020, 05:15 AM

Finally.... it was about time for that step. I'd have loved a F80 touring

. Now we have to wait for the final twin coffin design.

mmic77 · 08-13-2020, 05:19 AM

Sorry. Double post

. App sucks

GERMAN M3 · 08-13-2020, 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by mmic77

Finally.... it was about time for that step. I'd have loved a F80 touring

. Now we have to wait for the final twin coffin design.

Great for you guys back home in Europe mmic,

unfortunately it won’t be making it stateside.
By the way.....how are things going with the RS6?

MParallel · 08-13-2020, 06:07 AM

Sweet! Finally reason to buy a brand new car for once.

duky · 08-13-2020, 06:28 AM

I don't think anyone is disputing the reasons against the M3 coming to the US - we understand. But there's a rebuttal for all of them:

- "X3M is already selling well in the US" - ok well that is true around the world yet other countries will get it
- "BMW told Motor Trend etc that it is not coming" - ok but haven't they said this before about making an M3 Touring at all
- "there is no G21 sold in the US" - sure but is there an A6 or S6 Avant sold in US (understand the All-road is here)

Bottom line is we're allowed to dream so LET US DREAM. 24 hours ago we were all saying that there is no way, zero chance, etc etc of BMW making an M3 Touring. Now we've accepted they will make one but we've resorted to saying there is no way, zero chance, etc etc of BMW bringing it to the US. If there was truly no chance then BMW would have made that very clear on their website so that people buy the sedan or the X3M instead of waiting for a Touring that is never coming. I think there is a low chance sure, but they are considering it and they are appropriately setting expectations low by saying no through car mags.

F32Fleet · 08-13-2020, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghostriderf80

Quote:

Originally Posted by Macphisto

If I had the money... this...

It's a huge car, what i find really funny is America w the ultra low speed limits and 200 mph cars. LOL... Is there actually a way for you guys to drive them this fast without a full helicopter chase?

No not really. It's a combination of cheap fuel and favorable tax structure with lack of public transportation.

Diesel is taxed at a higher rate because tractor trailers and HD trucks use diesel and cause the most wear-n-tear on the highways.

The annual tax rate for passenger cars and light trucks is based on their total value rather than engine displacement or CO2 emissions.

Finally there isn't a large well established public transportation system which would require subsidizationt that, in part, would come from ridiculously high sales tax rates on cars/trucks.

mfurse · 08-13-2020, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ADEe92

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Originally Posted by macca1410

I know. I would have got a 340 touring if they came to Oz but an M version is even better. Will definitely get this.

This car is perfect for me. Two kids and a surfing family. So much better for putting boards on a touring roof than a stupid suv.

You can effectively get a M340i in Australia by buying an Alpina B3 wagon. I think that bringing in only the 330i was a deliberate move by Australian dealers to leave a little space in the market for the Alpina.

The M3 wagon may well make its way here, if not there is always the B3.

The B3 is closer to the M3 than you might think - it has the S58 for the first time but it's own bespoke dampers, springs, software etc. I am seriously considering one despite this awesome announcement as it doesn't suffer from pig face.

It's pig face + focussed chassis + wide body kit vs normal face + road chassis + sleeper

Personally the Alpina has a level of cool I admire.

as7920 · 08-13-2020, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by zuschnell

BMW, bring this to the US of A!!!!! Now.
Does anyone have some connections to make this happen.

Scott26, you out there???

That is all.

A few old builds to wet your American wagon hearts...

SCOTT26 Not so much. ynguldyn These days. Especially for US. Scott26 is more Euro.

MD707 · 08-13-2020, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by mfurse

The B3 is closer to the M3 than you might think - it has the S58 for the first time but it's own bespoke dampers, springs, software etc. I am seriously considering one despite this awesome announcement as it doesn't suffer from pig face.

It's pig face + focussed chassis + wide body kit vs normal face + road chassis + sleeper

Personally the Alpina has a level of cool I admire.

The Alpina configurator is a lot of fun. Choosing where you want your Alpina logos and how much is too much to spend on leather.

Comes in about 50% more than a 340. Sure the M3 will be a broadly similar price, though. https://www.alpina-configurator.com/gb

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