[zipstic]

Originally Posted by Burrcold

Have you even driven the M440i to make sure you are happy with the performance upgrade? That's a lot of money to potentially leave on the table for something you may not be totally satisfied with. If you are really looking for speed, I would sit tight until your situation improves and go all out with an M3.

This.

OP - Make sure you drive an M440 to see if you like it first. It's also pretty clear you've made up your mind that you're getting out of the 430i and you're wanting reassurance from people on the internet. At this point we all know you're going to do it. (BTW I'm not saying that's a bad thing.) As others have suggested, look into Vroom, Carvana and Carmax. You should get a pretty penny in today's market for your 430i.

The real question you should be asking is should I get an M440, S5, or C43 AMG. Or do you really want to go to the next level up: M4, RS5, C63

I'm excited to see a future post of yours with pics of your new whip!

[madpistol]

Originally Posted by Burrcold

Have you even driven the M440i to make sure you are happy with the performance upgrade? That's a lot of money to potentially leave on the table for something you may not be totally satisfied with. If you are really looking for speed, I would sit tight until your situation improves and go all out with an M3.

This right here.

The M340i/M440i are fast cars, but the current gen M3/M4 is bats**t insane. It's a lot of money, but you will NEVER want more power. The S58 motor is stupidly powerful.

[madpistol]

Originally Posted by ayyrabmoney93

I test drove the 430 and at the time I thought it was impressive…was definitely faster than my 6 cyl Acura, but like I said after the honeymoon period I’m now realizing that I’m not getting what I wanted, which is a car that knocks you back into your seat when you slam on the throttle. You’re right I should have done more research but unfortunately hindsight is always 2020. I guess I just assumed BMW would try to squeeze out more power from an engine instead of taming it down like it is.

What I wanted was a luxury sports car, but what I got was a luxury coupe. Not a bad deal overall but sucks to think I left something on the table.

For perspective, the first time I put my foot down on my current M340i, I got the silliest grin on my face and laughed out loud. I wasn't expecting the thrust, and to this day, it is still a ton of fun. The B58 motor in the M340i and M440i is an absolute gem of a motor. Fast, smooth, economical, and it makes a great noise when you pound on it. I test drove my Dad's current 430i Gran Coupe, and it was nice, but it felt downright slow compared to the M340i. You're literally getting a 50% power bump going from the B48 to the B58 motor. You won't be disappointed.

[ayyrabmoney93]

Originally Posted by zipstic

This.

OP - Make sure you drive an M440 to see if you like it first. It's also pretty clear you've made up your mind that you're getting out of the 430i and you're wanting reassurance from people on the internet. At this point we all know you're going to do it. (BTW I'm not saying that's a bad thing.) As others have suggested, look into Vroom, Carvana and Carmax. You should get a pretty penny in today's market for your 430i.

The real question you should be asking is should I get an M440, S5, or C43 AMG. Or do you really want to go to the next level up: M4, RS5, C63

I'm excited to see a future post of yours with pics of your new whip!

Hahahahaha I like you!

That’s fair. And I think you’re right, I think the best option for me is to just hold out for that next level, while in the meantime maybe a jb4 tune to hold me over until it makes financial sense to get out of my 430. That red M4 is sexy too but but so is that c43.

[ayyrabmoney93]

Originally Posted by madpistol

For perspective, the first time I put my foot down on my current M340i, I got the silliest grin on my face and laughed out loud. I wasn't expecting the thrust, and to this day, it is still a ton of fun. The B58 motor in the M340i and M440i is an absolute gem of a motor. Fast, smooth, economical, and it makes a great noise when you pound on it. I test drove my Dad's current 430i Gran Coupe, and it was nice, but it felt downright slow compared to the M340i. You're literally getting a 50% power bump going from the B48 to the B58 motor. You won't be disappointed.

Sigh…this just makes me sad. Even from just watching YouTube videos it’s pretty obvious the 440 would eat the 430 in terms of power. Uggghhh wish I’d watched a few more videos before buying!

[ayyrabmoney93]

Originally Posted by SpeedyATL

As you are thinking about your options, just know that BMW has always under rated their cars. Some more than others though.

Looking at the dyno charts from Dinan, they are showing a stock G20 330 to have 276hp at the crank vs 255 BMW claims. That said, they are showing a G20 M340 to have north of 440hp at the crank vs 382 bmw claims.

So, if you decide to upgrade, you are really looking at close to 170hp increase from the 430 to 440.

Since you own the car, you can sell outright to Vroom, Carvana, Carmax. I'd suggest get a quote from them, place an order for a new 440 and see what happens. Ordering will take you a few months and nothing says you have to take the car when it comes in (make sure your deposit is refundable), but at least you are in line and can give yourself time to decide and see how your finances play out.

I didn’t know you could order one and not buy it when it’s ready. I had assumed you were locked into buying it. Hmm good for thought.

[zipstic]

ayyrabmoney93 have you considered the G42 M240 X-Drive? It has the same B58 motor (without the mild hybrid) as the M440 X-Drive, but at a lower price point. Something to consider if you're trying to watch your bank account.

[madpistol]

Originally Posted by ayyrabmoney93

I didn’t know you could order one and not buy it when it’s ready. I had assumed you were locked into buying it. Hmm good for thought.

In today's market, ordering isn't a big deal. If the dealership gets it and you say "I don't want it.", unless it's something crazy, they will have no problem selling it.

[Frank The Bunny]

Originally Posted by ayyrabmoney93

Gold brick? Please explain? They offered me 16k less than what I bought it for 6 months ago for a trade in

The used car market around here started to go crazy around early/mid October.

Have you gotten a quote recently? You might see a big jump compared to what you were getting last summer.

[SpeedyATL]

Originally Posted by zipstic

ayyrabmoney93 have you considered the G42 M240 X-Drive? It has the same B58 motor (without the mild hybrid) as the M440 X-Drive, but at a lower price point. Something to consider if you're trying to watch your bank account.

This is a good idea, but I think the wait is pretty long. If you go for a stripper, the MSRP is about $50k vs $58k for a base M440 in 2wd. It is even faster as its maybe 150lbs lighter and 4wd.

[ayyrabmoney93]

Originally Posted by zipstic

ayyrabmoney93 have you considered the G42 M240 X-Drive? It has the same B58 motor (without the mild hybrid) as the M440 X-Drive, but at a lower price point. Something to consider if you're trying to watch your bank account.

Stylings just not for me fam.

[EXE46]

Originally Posted by madpistol

This right here.

The M340i/M440i are fast cars, but the current gen M3/M4 is bats**t insane. It's a lot of money, but you will NEVER want more power. The S58 motor is stupidly powerful.

Not true, depends on the individual, there are folks who are chasing more power with their M3/M4 by way of tunes. Doubt M cars is for this person coming from an Acura. Best for him/her to try the B58 before S58. I can see how TLX 6 to B48 is not much different in power which OP should have known from the get-go since it appears speed was his/her primary motivation.

[madpistol]

Originally Posted by EXE46

Not true, depends on the individual, there are folks who are chasing more power with their M3/M4 by way of tunes. Doubt M cars is for this person coming from an Acura. Best for him/her to try the B58 before S58. I can see how TLX 6 to B48 is not much different in power which OP should have known from the get-go since it appears speed was his/her primary motivation.

I was mainly speaking for the OP. Of course there will always the person that wants a 1000-HP fire breathing dragon whose only purpose on this planet is to kill the driver/occupants in the most spectacular crash imaginable.. but I doubt that's the OP.

[grabbat]

Anybody here came from a 435i to g22 430i and regrets it?
The 435i got M packages, without the mppk.
Or should I stick with M440i. Looking for it for the 2024 spring.

[Burrcold]

Originally Posted by grabbat

Anybody here came from a 435i to g22 430i and regrets it?
The 435i got M packages, without the mppk.
Or should I stick with M440i. Looking for it for the 2024 spring.

It's really hard to go from an inline 6 to a 4 cyl. I think you would regret not getting the m440i.

[Click_ID]

Originally Posted by grabbat

Anybody here came from a 435i to g22 430i and regrets it?
The 435i got M packages, without the mppk.
Or should I stick with M440i. Looking for it for the 2024 spring.

Just end this negotiation with yourself now. That 430 is a slooooow dog.

[Rawhide]

Originally Posted by grabbat

Anybody here came from a 435i to g22 430i and regrets it?
The 435i got M packages, without the mppk.
Or should I stick with M440i. Looking for it for the 2024 spring.

If you enjoy driving get the M440 or wait until you can afford it. I made this mistake years ago when going from a 128 to a 135 in less than 2 years.

[Montaver]

Having now owned a G20 330i, and now the M340i I still stand by my earlier comments. The 330i never felt slow to me, and had plenty of pep for driving around. Where the M340i is different is how effortlessly it can get up to speed, you don't have to work it very hard at all to get moving at serious pace. The m340i also has a stealthy sleeper vibe which I appreciate.

[toddwalton]

Originally Posted by Click_ID

Just end this negotiation with yourself now. That 430 is a slooooow dog.

5.3 seconds isn't slow. It's as fast as a 2013 M3 and I remember all the people proud and bragging about that back then.

And it's only 4.6 seconds for the 440i. My my, what will you do with that 0.7th of a second? Beat a soccer mom to the front of the kindergarten pickup line by a fingernail?

Just saying, the 430i is no slouch. Carry on.

[Assassin]

I wouldn't describe a 330i as slow, but the M340i is a far superior power unit. The 0-60 sprint difference is academic, its the total driving experience for me. Its more refined and that extra +70LB/ft of torque makes a huge difference to everyday driving out of town, especially when travelling away from the motorway/interstate. Of the two, the M340i would win every time for me. I tried both before going for the 6 pot boat motor version M340d! Not as sweet as the 340i but with +160lb/ft more and amazing fuel mileage its a great drive too. (Before anyone has a pop at buying a diesel, how would you US guys fancy paying over $7 a gallon for regular gas as we have to do in the UK??? Diesel is slightly more expensive but the M340d is over 30% better on fuel. Oh nearly forgot the unimportant ...... 0.2 secs slower 0-60 than the M340i)

[ayyrabmoney93]

I’m surprised this post resurfaced!

As the original OP I can tell you that my journey has been interesting.

I did in fact trade in my 430i for an m440i and man that thing was a blast. No contest the 430 is a kitten compared to the m440. And with the mild hybrid it’s actually more fuel efficient somehow.

I absolutely loved that car but had to trade it in once again for an x3 m40i because I needed a family car.

The x3 is vastly more comfortable and practical and even though it’s a little slower than the m440i it’s still unreasonably fast for an SUV and puts a smile on my face every time I drive it.

Net net, don’t waste time with 4 cylinders. 4 cylinders are a joke. Even Mercedes new amg 4 cyl 400hp electric hybrid can’t compete with their old 6 cyl.

Learn from my mistakes and buy the 6 cylinder and save yourself money in the long run because you won’t get bored and have to switch.

[stoked335d]

Originally Posted by ayyrabmoney93

I’m surprised this post resurfaced!

As the original OP I can tell you that my journey has been interesting.

I did in fact trade in my 430i for an m440i and man that thing was a blast. No contest the 430 is a kitten compared to the m440. And with the mild hybrid it’s actually more fuel efficient somehow.

I absolutely loved that car but had to trade it in once again for an x3 m40i because I needed a family car.

The x3 is vastly more comfortable and practical and even though it’s a little slower than the m440i it’s still unreasonably fast for an SUV and puts a smile on my face every time I drive it.

Net net, don’t waste time with 4 cylinders. 4 cylinders are a joke. Even Mercedes new amg 4 cyl 400hp electric hybrid can’t compete with their old 6 cyl.

Learn from my mistakes and buy the 6 cylinder and save yourself money in the long run because you won’t get bored and have to switch.

Since you are on an X3 M40i now I suggest don’t test drive the X3MC. It’s a beast.

I disagree with you that 4/330i is a slouch. It is not better than a M3/40i for sure if you were to own one car.

I bought a slightly used 330i Xdrive a month ago to drive into NYC, local food shopping etc which I call junk miles. It is a great nimble little car around town with great low end torque for city driving. Obviously it doesn’t have the great M seats, steering feedback, power and few other luxuries as in my ///M but it gets the job done. Gas mileage is great. Don’t have to worry about if someone scratched the bumpers or dinged the doors while parked on the street.

The only regret I have is it does not have the M Sport steering wheel option but this 2020 CPO had less than 6000 miles, practically new.