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      03-08-2019, 05:53 PM   #111
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I like the rear of the G20, but the front, man... the grille just doesn't sit well with me
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The F30 looks a lot better in pictures. The G20 looks good in person but plump and round in photos. I would never pay $50k plus for a four banger 3-series. That should be a $35k car max.
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Anyone who thinks it looks like a Lexus needs to be on meds...
You dont think the rear end of these two cars look alike?? Clear tail lights especially are sooooo Japanese
I don't see much resemblance in the photo you posted besides them both being blue sedans.
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They gotta do something with those kidneys and the window blinds behind them. LCI will probably fix that
I really like the photos from the Geneva auto show of the black m340i. It looks much better with the chrome around the grill blacked out.
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      03-08-2019, 09:26 PM   #115
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58K for a Mexican beauty, maybe @ $35K.
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      03-08-2019, 09:43 PM   #116
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I really like the photos from the Geneva auto show of the black m340i. It looks much better with the chrome around the grill blacked out.
I actually do too, I think the blacked out M340i grille is the best you can get at the moment, it looks a lot less plasticky then the 330i grille, and not like an AMG grille of the standard copper.

I hope I can afford a M340i when my lease is up, it's more attractive in every way to me then the new 330i.
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      03-08-2019, 11:35 PM   #117
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Anyone who thinks it looks like a Lexus needs to be on meds...
You dont think the rear end of these two cars look alike?? Clear tail lights especially are sooooo Japanese
I think that the G looks like perhaps a love child of the Lexus and F80... but if you ask me which parent it looks like the most .. it's NOT Mommy Lexus. It's Daddy F80.
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      03-08-2019, 11:45 PM   #118
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58K for a Mexican beauty, maybe @ $35K.
Glad to see I'm not the only one that thinks these prices are really creeping up. That's 58k without a 6 cylinder
I typically buy new but with these kind of prices the slightly used ones look so much more attractive now than before.

Back to the the original topic I do find that the front looks kind of off (perhaps its the grill that I can't still can't get by). Color wise, the Portimao Blue gets my vote.
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      03-09-2019, 08:15 AM   #119
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So many butthurt F30 owners
G20 is just a better car. Period.
I'm an e90 fanboy all day... but if you honestly think the g20 is the better looking car you're either on some good shit, or you're just trying to start a debate. G20 is curvy in the worst way, it looks huge and the only "bmw" styling que is the kidney grill.

It lost the angel eyes, it lost its signature body line running through the door handles, it lost its signature bmw ass end. The car looks like a Lexus/infinity/Mercedes from the side and the rear looks like a Lexus.

And the most annoying part is it looks NOTHING like anything else in the line up which makes the brand look cheap as a whole. It looks like they had a bmw designer work on the 1/2/5/6/7 and then had some outside hire do the g20 without ever seeing what the 1/2/5/6/7 look like. Just an oddball.
Yeah. I didn't think the G20 was too bad until I realized it made the F30 look good next to it...which I never liked much.

Perhaps it'll grow on me eventually.
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58K for a Mexican beauty, maybe @ $35K.
Glad to see I'm not the only one that thinks these prices are really creeping up. That's 58k without a 6 cylinder
I typically buy new but with these kind of prices the slightly used ones look so much more attractive now than before.

Back to the the original topic I do find that the front looks kind of off (perhaps its the grill that I can't still can't get by). Color wise, the Portimao Blue gets my vote.
Agree on the color, BMW seems to nail the blues. Just for laughs I'm curiously awaiting the price of the "fake M340" should be a doozy👍
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The G20 grille is border line offensive to me.

Have the aftermarket shops started to produce standard slat grilles yet?
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I don't like or dislike the new look, but one thing is for sure my first thought was damn, that thing looks like a Lexus now...
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The G20 grille is border line offensive to me.

Have the aftermarket shops started to produce standard slat grilles yet?
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The G20 grille is border line offensive to me.

Have the aftermarket shops started to produce standard slat grilles yet?
You mean you don't like the KIA grill? I get it.
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F30 looks better.
I feel like it will age as well as the E46.
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I like Estoril Blue color better than the new one. F30 looks more fit and athletic, other than that G20 is better in every other way.
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58K for a Mexican beauty, maybe @ $35K.
Glad to see I'm not the only one that thinks these prices are really creeping up. That's 58k without a 6 cylinder
I typically buy new but with these kind of prices the slightly used ones look so much more attractive now than before.

Back to the the original topic I do find that the front looks kind of off (perhaps its the grill that I can't still can't get by). Color wise, the Portimao Blue gets my vote.
I don't care if it is made in Mexico if BMW puts the cost savings back into the car instead of bigger margins. If BMW puts the money and improves reliability and the way the car drives. As long as QC is checked thoroughly. It can't be much worse than the bunch who voted for Trump in Spartanburg South Carolina.
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58K for a Mexican beauty, maybe @ $35K.
Glad to see I'm not the only one that thinks these prices are really creeping up. That's 58k without a 6 cylinder
I typically buy new but with these kind of prices the slightly used ones look so much more attractive now than before.

Back to the the original topic I do find that the front looks kind of off (perhaps its the grill that I can't still can't get by). Color wise, the Portimao Blue gets my vote.
I don't care if it is made in Mexico if BMW puts the cost savings back into the car instead of bigger margins. If BMW puts the money and improves reliability and the way the car drives. As long as QC is checked thoroughly. It can't be much worse than the bunch who voted for Trump in Spartanburg South Carolina.
Prices up in U.K. which will hurt volumes. Not only the higher prices a problem but in U.K. depreciation is now pretty savage due to discounting and drive for volume. Not a great business model.

Why pay a lot more per month for a car that doesn't look so good although might drive a bit better. Time to look at other options
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When the F30 came out it was love at first sight. The G20 is one ugly beast. The headlights are nasty looking. The rear doesn't know what it wants to be. I hope the LCI fixes the tooth gap in the headlights and they completely redo the rear lights.....but most likely ain't happening.
: Happyanim: I think the G20 is the most beautiful 3 of all times: Thumsup:
Very nice all those different opinions:duimen omhoog:
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So many butthurt F30 owners
G20 is just a better car. Period.
I'm an e90 fanboy all day... but if you honestly think the g20 is the better looking car you're either on some good shit, or you're just trying to start a debate. G20 is curvy in the worst way, it looks huge and the only "bmw" styling que is the kidney grill.

It lost the angel eyes, it lost its signature body line running through the door handles, it lost its signature bmw ass end. The car looks like a Lexus/infinity/Mercedes from the side and the rear looks like a Lexus.

And the most annoying part is it looks NOTHING like anything else in the line up which makes the brand look cheap as a whole. It looks like they had a bmw designer work on the 1/2/5/6/7 and then had some outside hire do the g20 without ever seeing what the 1/2/5/6/7 look like. Just an oddball.
Yeah. I didn't think the G20 was too bad until I realized it made the F30 look good next to it...which I never liked much.

Perhaps it'll grow on me eventually.
It looks cheap because it looks like nothing in the lineup? Man I was just thinking good for BMW that they didn't take MB's route and just scale everything. I like that the models look slightly different. I would not like it to look like the 5er or the 7 as the 5er looks too simple and not dynamic and the 7 looks like ass.
I don't care if this car looks like MB/Lexus/... as long as it looks better than the E90 which looked like a Hyundai/kia.
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So many butthurt F30 owners
G20 is just a better car. Period.
I'm an e90 fanboy all day... but if you honestly think the g20 is the better looking car you're either on some good shit, or you're just trying to start a debate. G20 is curvy in the worst way, it looks huge and the only "bmw" styling que is the kidney grill.

It lost the angel eyes, it lost its signature body line running through the door handles, it lost its signature bmw ass end. The car looks like a Lexus/infinity/Mercedes from the side and the rear looks like a Lexus.

And the most annoying part is it looks NOTHING like anything else in the line up which makes the brand look cheap as a whole. It looks like they had a bmw designer work on the 1/2/5/6/7 and then had some outside hire do the g20 without ever seeing what the 1/2/5/6/7 look like. Just an oddball.
Yeah. I didn't think the G20 was too bad until I realized it made the F30 look good next to it...which I never liked much.

Perhaps it'll grow on me eventually.
It looks cheap because it looks like nothing in the lineup? Man I was just thinking good for BMW that they didn't take MB's route and just scale everything. I like that the models look slightly different. I would not like it to look like the 5er or the 7 as the 5er looks too simple and not dynamic and the 7 looks like ass.
I don't care if this car looks like MB/Lexus/... as long as it looks better than the E90 which looked like a Hyundai/kia.
I think you were quoting the first poster but I'm gonna have to stop you from believing that the E90 resembled anything else on the road in its class when it was released in late 2005. The styling was pretty radical and I think the 330i still looks good in stock form with the 162s in 2019.
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So many butthurt F30 owners
G20 is just a better car. Period.
I'm an e90 fanboy all day... but if you honestly think the g20 is the better looking car you're either on some good shit, or you're just trying to start a debate. G20 is curvy in the worst way, it looks huge and the only "bmw" styling que is the kidney grill.

It lost the angel eyes, it lost its signature body line running through the door handles, it lost its signature bmw ass end. The car looks like a Lexus/infinity/Mercedes from the side and the rear looks like a Lexus.

And the most annoying part is it looks NOTHING like anything else in the line up which makes the brand look cheap as a whole. It looks like they had a bmw designer work on the 1/2/5/6/7 and then had some outside hire do the g20 without ever seeing what the 1/2/5/6/7 look like. Just an oddball.
Yeah. I didn't think the G20 was too bad until I realized it made the F30 look good next to it...which I never liked much.

Perhaps it'll grow on me eventually.
It looks cheap because it looks like nothing in the lineup? Man I was just thinking good for BMW that they didn't take MB's route and just scale everything. I like that the models look slightly different. I would not like it to look like the 5er or the 7 as the 5er looks too simple and not dynamic and the 7 looks like ass.
I don't care if this car looks like MB/Lexus/... as long as it looks better than the E90 which looked like a Hyundai/kia.
I think you were quoting the first poster but I'm gonna have to stop you from believing that the E90 resembled anything else on the road in its class when it was released in late 2005. The styling was pretty radical and I think the 330i still looks good in stock form with the 162s in 2019.
let me fix your sentence.
"The styling was pretty ugly..."
of course my opinion.
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