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      01-12-2019, 11:10 PM   #1233
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      01-12-2019, 11:38 PM   #1234
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Official 2020 Supra Images

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      01-13-2019, 12:21 AM   #1235
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I really don't see how the change is so terrible. To me, the new one is much better.
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      01-13-2019, 07:17 AM   #1236
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Nice Z4 coupe
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      01-13-2019, 10:02 AM   #1237
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      01-13-2019, 11:08 AM   #1238
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Yes, the previous generations of Supra were GT boats. The fascination with the 4th generation was not really the looks. The FD Rx-7 was and is a much better looking car. It was the performance. For the time, the 4th gen had top tier performance numbers. For those of us who were into cars in the early 90s, it was a big deal.

I don't see anything like that with this new one. That's the heart of the problem, for me.
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Embargo Broken: 2020 Toyota Supra New Photos Are Out, Including First Of Interior

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      01-13-2019, 03:18 PM   #1241
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I also don't knock cars until I see them in person anyway. I
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      01-13-2019, 03:24 PM   #1242
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Waiting to see it in person, then again if that’s
The b58 engine you know its easy to tune.
You’re guaranteed to run into a bunch of
Those tuned to over 500 crank all over
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      01-13-2019, 04:25 PM   #1243
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      01-13-2019, 04:25 PM   #1244
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I cant believe how hideous it looks.
They put way too many lines, creases, fake vents in such a short wheelbase design. Uggghhh

My BRZ looks much cleaner design and bigger than this thing!
This is like a wider Miata RF......

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      01-13-2019, 07:34 PM   #1245
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2020 Toyota GR Supra Fully Revealed Ahead of Detroit!

There are a lot of pics, go to link below for full gallery.

https://www.carscoops.com/2019/01/20...oduction-form/




























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      01-13-2019, 07:35 PM   #1246
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It looks like utter dog crap!
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      01-13-2019, 08:42 PM   #1247
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haven't been keeping up with this what is the final engine options?
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Ill wait to see it in person but it looks too extreme in the pics. Weird collaboration with BMW. Its the same drivetrain and interior as the z4 just wearing a samurai suit and some toyota badges.
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I can't wait to see what the dealers try to charge over MSRP for these turds once they first start showing up on the lots.

That interior is horrible, it looks like the most base BMW interior ever.
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I won't defend the looks, but let's put some pros on the table...

1. This is basically a Z4 Coupe but if the pricing speculation of $55K for premium trim is true (sans dealer markup) then this car is $13K cheaper than the Z4 m40i. Sounds like a deal from a pure value standpoint.
1b. Factor in that the original MKIV turbo retailed for $40K in 90's money, after inflation that works out to be around $65-70K. Still a great value (again - assuming $55K is real). The nitrous bottle-is-half-full guy in me says this is like getting a credit for mods
2. B58 is a good motor with a lot of potential. Imagine after market turbos, meth, e85, etc. I actually think it is great that the Toyota aftermarket will get into the B58 because usually the non-M motors don't get any love. The bigger the aftermarket the better for all.
3. On the performance front, let us not forget that the Z4 turned in a 7:55 ring time. Better than an M2, and just a little slower than an M2 Comp. No official numbers from Toyota, but I'd imagine a stiffer roof could only help.
4. Finally, the seams on the car I think are ideal for exterior modification. The way it is "cut" I almost think Toyota did it to make it easier to turn into a wide body. I am almost certain the aftermarket will exploit it too. This car is basically a big-boy GT86 and I think Gazoo + aftermarket are going to do some pretty interesting things. Let's hope anyways.

It's a BMW's ugly cousin, but it's what's inside that matters most right? RIGHT??
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      01-13-2019, 09:59 PM   #1251
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I am guessing that the deal between BMW and Toyota was that BMW would make a roadster and Toyota a coupe. So if I am right, BMW won't make a coupe.
BMW and Toyota are free to pursue alternate roofs for the Z4 and Supra. Both have confirmed these future production options.
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As I see more pics it's actually grown on me quite a bit. Certainly over-styled and a bit cartoonish but still attractive. I'm excited to see it in Detroit next weekend!
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      01-13-2019, 11:48 PM   #1253
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I like the looks but no MT is a non-starter for me.

This won't sell IMHO. Too expensive for a Toyota.
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      01-14-2019, 12:25 AM   #1254
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I know the drive train is all BMW but so is that center stack..... Atleast do something to make it look like a Japanese Toyota in that cabin ( just so its diff than the Z4 ).
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