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      05-03-2019, 10:05 PM   #23
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I'm sure they had them adjusted properly.

The LED issue is pretty much across the entire BMW lines.
I guarantee you they have not
I guarantee you that no halogens have ever had a good rating from the iihs.
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      05-03-2019, 10:08 PM   #24
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Majority of buyers aren’t going to adjust them so if BMW isn’t going to adjust it right from the factory, then they deserve whatever score they get.
Correct but to say LED are somehow inferior in safety is also misleading
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Majority of buyers aren’t going to adjust them so if BMW isn’t going to adjust it right from the factory, then they deserve whatever score they get.
Correct but to say LED are somehow inferior in safety is also misleading
Inferior to HID, not Halogen.

iihs, not me.

In fact non-adaptive were rated a poor/fail, just like Halogen. The Adaptive LED only scored "Acceptable" not "Good".
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      05-04-2019, 12:01 AM   #26
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Mine sucked or so I thought but then adjusted them up and they’re fantastic. Just as good as HID lights which I thought were great back in the day.
BMW adjusts them way too low from the factory
Which do you feel is more likely: BMW misaligns literally all their headlights from the factory, or their cheapest headlight option just isn't very bright?

Headlight alignment is a job done by a human on a highly calibrated reference point at the factory. I find it hard to believe that BMW would have proper headlights but just misalign all of them from the factory that contributes to a lower IIHS rating on base models. I find it more likely that you're blinding oncoming traffic.
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I don't get how a crash test can be influenced by a headlight type vs another type. I can understand that the car will be more visible and the driver will be able to see better, but when a crash occur, the type of light will make no difference for the safety of the driver or the passengers!
That’s why it’s called a safety rating, not crash rating. The safest cars help you avoid a crash.
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      05-04-2019, 09:11 AM   #28
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Are the light outputs capped in the US?
I thought the regulations effectively made lights compared to say the EU equivalents inferior in both output and functionality?( thought I read somewhere though that rules as regards adaptive were about to change for the better?)
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      05-04-2019, 09:25 AM   #29
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Are the light outputs capped in the US?
I thought the regulations effectively made lights compared to say the EU equivalents inferior in both output and functionality?( thought I read somewhere though that rules as regards adaptive were about to change for the better?)
F30 adaptive LED are higher wattage than non-adaptive.
But they’re still aiming them too low or US at least.

When I got my car home, we parked in front of the garage next to Q50s that my wife drove to give me a ride to the dealership. Parked parallel and at the same distance from the garage doors, her lights were throwing LED lights much higher than F30.
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Those headlights 👍
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      05-04-2019, 10:46 AM   #31
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I sure miss the Dynamic HID's from my 2012 E92 335i!
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Mercedes is capable of making plain LED headlights better than BMw, I don't understand why BMW LED headlights are so lousy.
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Acura RDX have the best headlights of any car I've ever been in so far.
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Majority of buyers aren’t going to adjust them so if BMW isn’t going to adjust it right from the factory, then they deserve whatever score they get.
How do you adjust them?
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      05-05-2019, 05:54 AM   #35
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Well to me the low beam graphs are almost identical and I believe the Executive package gets the better rating due the longer range of the laser lights (I do not believe, correct me if wrong) but you can not manually disable them even for testing.
It is also aided by high beam assist which is an individual option for all light packages
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The true beauty of BMW LED headlights is after you code in the anti-dazzle feature.

It's amazing
This! I'm amazed at how much they do illuminate when this is activated. Really missing out if you've not tried these.
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They (IIHS) should properly adjust them before testing
Mine were so low I was crushed driving home from a dealer. I was basically outrunning the light on the highway. Came home and read all about it on F30 forums, grabbed a screwdriver and 5-6 turns later on each side they’re brilliant.
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I'm sure they had them adjusted properly.

The LED issue is pretty much across the entire BMW lines.
From https://www.iihs.org/iihs/ratings/ra...ght-evaluation

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Headlights are tested as received from the dealer. Although many headlight problems could be resolved by adjusting the aim of the lamps, IIHS doesn't change headlight aim. Few vehicle owners adjust the vertical aim of their headlights, so leaving the aim the way it was set at the factory makes the testing more realistic. Horizontal aim also is important, but in most vehicles it can't be changed after the initial factory setting.
The IIHS is not adjusting headlamps before testing, but even they admit owners should do it after taking home their new car.
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Well to me the low beam graphs are almost identical and I believe the Executive package gets the better rating due the longer range of the laser lights (I do not believe, correct me if wrong) but you can not manually disable them even for testing.
It is also aided by high beam assist which is an individual option for all light packages
Exactly. If one carefully looks at the output distance diagrams, it is clear that Adaptive Led (ZCV) and Lasers are pretty much the same in regard to low-beam performance.

Actually, it seems that Adaptive LED headlights low-beam performs slightly better on the right side of the road compared to Lasers. On the contrary, Lasers perform a bit better on the left side of the road compared to Adaptive LEDs. All in all, there is no visible difference between main-beams. The only significant difference is with high-beams where Lasers throw around 25% further.
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The true beauty of BMW LED headlights is after you code in the anti-dazzle feature.

It's amazing
You need auto high beams to code anti dazzle. The only way in the U.S.to get auto high beams is to purchase the Executive Package.
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From https://www.iihs.org/iihs/ratings/ra...ght-evaluation



The IIHS is not adjusting headlamps before testing, but even they admit owners should do it after taking home their new car.
There you go, so grab a screwdriver and you’ll see better
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