2019 G20 M340i or 2018 F30 340i?

Score04 · 10-20-2018, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by alex2364

What are your specs? I just found a number of white 6MT RWD 340i with black interiors.

This is what I am looking for. Let me know if the link works otherwise here's some screen shots:

https://www.bmwusa.com/byo.html#!/bu...mmary/dr4u5a56

I can hold off from the sport pedals, spoiler, and carbon fiber mirrors as those I can add on myself as a separate purchase but the options I want. This is a specific build only because I've been driving my RSX for 14 years and it's time to get a car to the spec I want. I really wish this was out there but have had zero luck finding. If it's not out there then I already know I have to consider another car or settle for an auto g20 which is hard to comprehend going away from manual. It really sucks they showed the g20 after they stopped making f30 or finding what is gone.

Can anyone provide guidance on getting PM's fixed or how to get in touch and where with moderator? Thanks!

M3GymNut · 10-20-2018, 09:53 AM

Man I miss my 06 type S, it was in black. Loved that little car. Anyways if you love manual that much then go from there. I love manual as well and the car would have to be on another level for me to consider an auto again...

M3GymNut · 10-20-2018, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Score04

This is what I am looking for. Let me know if the link works otherwise here's some screen shots:

https://www.bmwusa.com/byo.html#!/bu...mmary/dr4u5a56

I can hold off from the sport pedals, spoiler, and carbon fiber mirrors as those I can add on myself as a separate purchase but the options I want. This is a specific build only because I've been driving my RSX for 14 years and it's time to get a car to the spec I want. I really wish this was out there but have had zero luck finding. If it's not out there then I already know I have to consider another car or settle for an auto g20 which is hard to comprehend going away from manual. It really sucks they showed the g20 after they stopped making f30 or finding what is gone.

Can anyone provide guidance on getting PM's fixed or how to get in touch and where with moderator? Thanks!

Damn, you might as well get a used M3 with low miles...

bmweston · 10-20-2018, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Score04

This is what I am looking for. Let me know if the link works otherwise here's some screen shots:

I can hold off from the sport pedals, spoiler, and carbon fiber mirrors as those I can add on myself as a separate purchase but the options I want. This is a specific build only because I've been driving my RSX for 14 years and it's time to get a car to the spec I want. I really wish this was out there but have had zero luck finding. If it's not out there then I already know I have to consider another car or settle for an auto g20 which is hard to comprehend going away from manual. It really sucks they showed the g20 after they stopped making f30 or finding what is gone.

Hey man. I did a search for you in Canada. There's only one 340i RWD with a stick within a 200 mile radius of Toronto, ON. I know that may not be a lot of help to you but it's best I could come up with to at least try and help with your decision process.

Score04 · 10-20-2018, 02:36 PM

Thanks but don’t want Canadian model. I appreciate everyone’s help. I also would consider m3 w same options. I do want leather seats and sunroof rather than carbon fiber roof and cloth seats. I would consider extended laeather with dash but that would be more obviously. I don’t want completion package with the bump in power and 20 inch rims and those sport seats. Too overkill and there’s an abundance of those online. 2018 model also is kind of a must. I looked for those and would consider with under 10k miles but I think maintenance doesn’t transfer over to next owner. I can’t find m3s w with all safety features of 340i as well. Lose lose. I should have looked in August but was waiting on g20 announcer with manual trans. I’m sure enthusiasts in here can relate in similar situation.

Score04 · 10-20-2018, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by M3GymNut

Man I miss my 06 type S, it was in black. Loved that little car. Anyways if you love manual that much then go from there. I love manual as well and the car would have to be on another level for me to consider an auto again...

Yes exactly!

tturedraider · 10-22-2018, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Score04

Thanks. My dad had rwd g35 could 6 speed and it did well with singer tires. That combination works well in Chicago. Can anyone recommend a good chicago dealership or nationwide that will speak to an enthusiast of cars or bmws rather than focused on selling whatever in their lot?

Try Knauz. They have a good reputation for customer service. Matt Pudlo is an enthusiast; owns an E46 ///M3.

Score04 · 10-22-2018, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by tturedraider

Try Knauz. They have a good reputation for customer service. Matt Pudlo is an enthusiast; owns an E46 ///M3.

That's weird for you to recommend as I reached out and had a bland non helpful response from Bob Geisheker. I guess I'll give that dealership a try with this Matt person.

sev1 · 10-23-2018, 03:43 PM

Have you driven a manual 340i? If you're expecting a similar shift experience to your RSX you will be disappointed. I owned a 2nd Gen Integra w short shifter and Accord V6 6sp stock and both of those had massively better shift action than my wife's 435i. The action on the BMW Shifter is very long and feels rubbery compared to the precision of say the V6 6sp.

The ZF8 on the other hand is truly amazing for an auto. I almost don't miss manual. Almost.

x986 · 10-23-2018, 04:18 PM

Two points for the OP. BMW has a history of doing ".5" models. i.e. a mid-year re-do during the first year. The majority of 'manual shift only' people who have been forced into auto cars seem to be happy.

Score04 · 10-24-2018, 10:33 AM

I think I drove a 340 manual long ago. I remember the long throws. Whether it compares to Honda/Acura manual probably doesn't make a difference to me as long as it is manual.

themnmd · 10-24-2018, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by anotheran

How important is MT to you? How much will you regret not getting a G20?

You should put together a list of your priorities and see which comes out on top, like the following:
Power, G20 M340i
Immediate deal: F30
Resale value/Leasing: G20
Reliability: F30 (I avoid first year models)
Gadgets: G20

So I to struggled with the wheel auto vs man transmission. I had a 2008 Golf gti with a 6 speed and loved it about 98 % of the time, except for in traffic. however now I have a 2014 M235i with the ZF8 auto. I think it is a fine transmission for all but hard track time which I do not do. it clicks off smooth fast shifts when you step on it. (in sport mode )
anyway to me the tech and new design is worth G20. not to mention it shifts gears faster than you can.

Rob

Score04 · 10-24-2018, 11:33 PM

Thanks for sharing your opinion, Rob!

upsidedownfunnel · 10-25-2018, 06:15 PM

If the manual is important to you, I say go for it. The ZHP car you're looking at has the M Performance Power Sount Kit, an LSD and adaptive shocks which get you halfway to the advantage of an M340i anyway. While I personally prefer passive dampers, the adaptive shocks at least give you some advantage.

Trust me, you'll miss the manual transmission the most out of any other thing on the car. Every day you drive the M340i, you'll think about your Acura. You'll scour Autotrader for another one just like it or look for an older BMW with a stick shift.

Yes the shifter isn't as precise. I've driven the last Integra GS-R and an S2000 and I know how much better Honda shifters are. But that hardly makes any difference. Being able to shift your own gears is something you will definitely miss. Anyone who says otherwise is just trying to justify having to drive an automatic every dya.

insanecoder · 10-25-2018, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by upsidedownfunnel

If the manual is important to you, I say go for it. The ZHP car you're looking at has the M Performance Power Sount Kit, an LSD and adaptive shocks which get you halfway to the advantage of an M340i anyway. While I personally prefer passive dampers, the adaptive shocks at least give you some advantage.

Trust me, you'll miss the manual transmission the most out of any other thing on the car. Every day you drive the M340i, you'll think about your Acura. You'll scour Autotrader for another one just like it or look for an older BMW with a stick shift.

Yes the shifter isn't as precise. I've driven the last Integra GS-R and an S2000 and I know how much better Honda shifters are. But that hardly makes any difference. Being able to shift your own gears is something you will definitely miss. Anyone who says otherwise is just trying to justify having to drive an automatic every dya.

You tryin to torture the chap?
I do not miss the manual one bit in my ZF motored unit
if you really want a manual tho by all means just get one
but theres a reason why manuals arent around much anymore..
theyre just not in demand all that much anymore
dont miss it one bit right now
but I do hope they are around one day I get the itch back for a 4th or 5th playmobile

Score04 · 10-25-2018, 09:03 PM

Thanks guys. Both of you are on the money. There is a chance I would be thinking about driving my Acura or browsing around for a manual. There is a chance I learn to grow and love an automatic but everyday I drive my Acura on the expressway I love the feeling of control of the car, the downshifts the upshifts. If I had money I would get an m3 if it was in my budget but I am not willing to go older than 2018 as I’ve driven 14 years and to settle for something would suck. It’s a shitty situation all around.

aaghajanians · 10-26-2018, 12:52 PM

hey OP why not lease a 2018 f30, then in 3 years when G20 is out, and they figured out all the bugs and issue jump on that. Since you would lease the f30 you can compromise on color/option combo.

Score04 · 10-26-2018, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by aaghajanians

hey OP why not lease a 2018 f30, then in 3 years when G20 is out, and they figured out all the bugs and issue jump on that. Since you would lease the f30 you can compromise on color/option combo.

That is a decent suggestion but it's an overall money loss and more work than I want to do leasing and then getting the car in 3 years. I hear what you're saying and thanks for the input!

Herakles · 11-04-2018, 09:13 PM

Soooo

In 2015 I was shopping for my first bmw! I was set on a f30 345, being well it was 4 years after the last e90 335 model year.

I stumbled upon my current 2011 335 xdrive msport I found with 9k miles , literally brand new -

I paid 30k at the time which was about 5-7k cheaper than a used 2014 335 ...

With the being said I regret not getting a f30 for the newer look... and I'm getting tired of my e90 already by year 3 ownership.

Go for the newest you can afford so you have no regrets- if I sell mine would be either 340 or wait for used 2019 m340

phefner · 11-06-2018, 05:57 PM

Wife is picking her new Mineral Grey F30 340, M Sport plus other goodies tomorrow. Discount off MSRP was >10% BEFORE discounts like $3K Lease and $750 loyalty. There are potentially others that apply in our case.

Think you need to ask yourself...if you can strike a great deal on a very well teased out F30...why not jump on a lease and let the other guys sort out the bugs over the first couple yrs.

The G isn't going to be that different. I'm sure someone will disagree.

Cheers.

Score04 · 11-06-2018, 10:12 PM

It's been 14 years almost having a new car. I'm at that point that I'm 99% picky as I like to keep a car over 6-7 years. If I settle for something I won't keep it long. I just have a different mindset and seems more than 50% on here lease and get a new model every 3-4 years.

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Score04 Captain 229 Rep 625 Posts Drives: ‘23 BMW X3 M40i Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Chicago iTrader: (0)	Thanks but don’t want Canadian model. I appreciate everyone’s help. I also would consider m3 w same options. I do want leather seats and sunroof rather than carbon fiber roof and cloth seats. I would consider extended laeather with dash but that would be more obviously. I don’t want completion package with the bump in power and 20 inch rims and those sport seats. Too overkill and there’s an abundance of those online. 2018 model also is kind of a must. I looked for those and would consider with under 10k miles but I think maintenance doesn’t transfer over to next owner. I can’t find m3s w with all safety features of 340i as well. Lose lose. I should have looked in August but was waiting on g20 announcer with manual trans. I’m sure enthusiasts in here can relate in similar situation.
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sev1 Private 26 Rep 64 Posts Drives: 2023 X5 45e Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: United States iTrader: (0)	Have you driven a manual 340i? If you're expecting a similar shift experience to your RSX you will be disappointed. I owned a 2nd Gen Integra w short shifter and Accord V6 6sp stock and both of those had massively better shift action than my wife's 435i. The action on the BMW Shifter is very long and feels rubbery compared to the precision of say the V6 6sp. The ZF8 on the other hand is truly amazing for an auto. I almost don't miss manual. Almost.
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x986 First Lieutenant 96 Rep 378 Posts Drives: '16 340, ex e92 335, ex e46 M3 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: North Bay Area, CA iTrader: (0) Garage List 1996 Ferrari F355 [0.00] 2014 Porsche Cayman S [0.00] 2020 M340i [0.00]	Two points for the OP. BMW has a history of doing ".5" models. i.e. a mid-year re-do during the first year. The majority of 'manual shift only' people who have been forced into auto cars seem to be happy.
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Score04 Captain 229 Rep 625 Posts Drives: ‘23 BMW X3 M40i Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Chicago iTrader: (0)	I think I drove a 340 manual long ago. I remember the long throws. Whether it compares to Honda/Acura manual probably doesn't make a difference to me as long as it is manual.
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Score04 Captain 229 Rep 625 Posts Drives: ‘23 BMW X3 M40i Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Chicago iTrader: (0)	Thanks for sharing your opinion, Rob!
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10-25-2018, 06:15 PM	#58
upsidedownfunnel Colonel 1996 Rep 2,499 Posts Drives: 2014 335i Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: SoCal iTrader: (4) Garage List 2014 BMW 335i [0.00]	If the manual is important to you, I say go for it. The ZHP car you're looking at has the M Performance Power Sount Kit, an LSD and adaptive shocks which get you halfway to the advantage of an M340i anyway. While I personally prefer passive dampers, the adaptive shocks at least give you some advantage. Trust me, you'll miss the manual transmission the most out of any other thing on the car. Every day you drive the M340i, you'll think about your Acura. You'll scour Autotrader for another one just like it or look for an older BMW with a stick shift. Yes the shifter isn't as precise. I've driven the last Integra GS-R and an S2000 and I know how much better Honda shifters are. But that hardly makes any difference. Being able to shift your own gears is something you will definitely miss. Anyone who says otherwise is just trying to justify having to drive an automatic every dya.
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Score04 Captain 229 Rep 625 Posts Drives: ‘23 BMW X3 M40i Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Chicago iTrader: (0)	Thanks guys. Both of you are on the money. There is a chance I would be thinking about driving my Acura or browsing around for a manual. There is a chance I learn to grow and love an automatic but everyday I drive my Acura on the expressway I love the feeling of control of the car, the downshifts the upshifts. If I had money I would get an m3 if it was in my budget but I am not willing to go older than 2018 as I’ve driven 14 years and to settle for something would suck. It’s a shitty situation all around.
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aaghajanians Private 43 Rep 63 Posts Drives: 2016 F80 AW 6MT Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Pasadena CA iTrader: (0)	hey OP why not lease a 2018 f30, then in 3 years when G20 is out, and they figured out all the bugs and issue jump on that. Since you would lease the f30 you can compromise on color/option combo.
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Herakles Captain 248 Rep 824 Posts Drives: United States Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Pa iTrader: (0)	Soooo In 2015 I was shopping for my first bmw! I was set on a f30 345, being well it was 4 years after the last e90 335 model year. I stumbled upon my current 2011 335 xdrive msport I found with 9k miles , literally brand new - I paid 30k at the time which was about 5-7k cheaper than a used 2014 335 ... With the being said I regret not getting a f30 for the newer look... and I'm getting tired of my e90 already by year 3 ownership. Go for the newest you can afford so you have no regrets- if I sell mine would be either 340 or wait for used 2019 m340 __________________ 2011 335 Msport Xdrive Space grey purchased on 8/7/15
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phefner Lieutenant 369 Rep 416 Posts Drives: F30 340, F80 M3 Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Chicago iTrader: (0)	Wife is picking her new Mineral Grey F30 340, M Sport plus other goodies tomorrow. Discount off MSRP was >10% BEFORE discounts like $3K Lease and $750 loyalty. There are potentially others that apply in our case. Think you need to ask yourself...if you can strike a great deal on a very well teased out F30...why not jump on a lease and let the other guys sort out the bugs over the first couple yrs. The G isn't going to be that different. I'm sure someone will disagree. Cheers. __________________ Quietly Effective
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Score04 Captain 229 Rep 625 Posts Drives: ‘23 BMW X3 M40i Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Chicago iTrader: (0)	It's been 14 years almost having a new car. I'm at that point that I'm 99% picky as I like to keep a car over 6-7 years. If I settle for something I won't keep it long. I just have a different mindset and seems more than 50% on here lease and get a new model every 3-4 years.
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