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Lots of discussion about steering so I'll steer this in a different direction when will we see an M340? It's almost mid Nov and not much info about it I need a test drive now
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11-12-2018, 11:48 AM | #24 |
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Stock e90 steering sucked, it had too much feel and too much resistance, it also came with a very slow rack... yeah it was better than F30 335i, but god damn if thats your point of comparo...
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You've got it entirely backwards. The only thing the F30 does better is technology. Build quality, driving dynamics, feel & feedback, etc etc are all a step down from the E90 generation and this isn't even debatable. Virtually every single automotive journalist publication claims the exact same thing when comparing the two, along with tonnes of individuals from their own experiences as well - myself included.
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The article had no information about any possible improvements in M Adaptive suspension. The new purely mechanical lift related damper is of course an improvement. But no mechanical setup can respond to the entire spectrum of road surface variations. And that's the issue.
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Ya. However back then the tyres were lower profile
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That BS was mostly due to First Generation Run Flats !
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All this talk about steering is taking away from the true horror of BMWs atrocious wheel gaps.
BMW must be moving into the crossover market with their cars sitting on SUV suspensions!
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It seems it would be easier to slap a force feedback system on to the rack and record it and have the feedback add the input to match like a racing sim set up would use. |
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this is a good article. Of particular interest is the adjustments they made to the electric steering's sensitivity which I felt was a major issue in many of the F cars.
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Benchmark e90? E90 was way too heavy. E46 was much better
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That's mostly aluminum though and looks like pretty much every 3 series front suspension for the past few generations. That won't be the problem. The problem will be with the stamped steel control arms in the rear of the car. The aluminum control arms will just look a bit corroded.
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The new rear diff is an active diff like the F80 M3 currently has. Lockup is variable depending on what the car is doing at that moment. This is an extremely interesting addition to a non-M BMW and should be absolutely fantastic as it gives the engineers a lot of freedom to influence how the car feels and behaves in various conditions (braking, acceleration, turn-in, corner exit, etc. )
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F30 has 64% less steering feel than E9x G20 has 60% less steering feel than E9x Hmmmm, I suppose it is tracking in the right direction...
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And they all say the same thing all that protection under new cars especially the cars from Asian parts of the world that protection when removed for inspections is just a horror show after three years loads of cars are damaged by the winter so heavily that they are considered a road hazard. Sometimes those skid bars can cover up a lot of damage that is done during winter time because that's the part you cant reach to clean when washing the underneath of the car. When i get my new car after this X1 the first thing i will do is go for a complete rust treatment beneath the car so it can withstand the winters a lot better. The picture below is the picture of my former work car, now imagine the underside of the car and the parts you can't reach.
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