[Transfer]

Originally Posted by DK__LA

Nothing strange about it , the car simply has zero hype behind it and for a good reason.

Hmm. Insert eye roll emoji or a Trump WRONG gif? So many decisions.

Have you driven one? It's a really great car.

[BLVCKBURN]

Originally Posted by MT4life

Said the same thing most of us were saying. M doesn’t belong on the non M car

As someone that is buying his first BMW. I understand the whole M thing but I view it like this...the M340i is a M Performance while a M2, M3, M4...M5 (my dream car) are M Cars. M Performance indicates "M Like" Performance while M is the real deal.

I know this is really going to be hated but at the end of the day no matter how much you love BMW and how much you love your vehicle, you don't get to decide what is and what isn't an M car unless you are apart of the BMW team that presents, designs and makes the calls on these cars.

Despite all this I will always love BMW whether its a M Performance Model or a true M model.

[GGG333]

Originally Posted by Transfer

Hmm. Insert eye roll emoji or a Trump WRONG gif? So many decisions.

Have you driven one? It's a really great car.

Yes I have driven it, I've driven every single BMW up to date and I own an M4.
It's an ok car , very lexus-ish and nothing about it is special. Sorry

[psuibmw]

Originally Posted by DK__LA

Yes I have driven it, I've driven every single BMW up to date and I own an M4.
It's an ok car , very lexus-ish and nothing about it is special. Sorry

That's not unexpected and it's OK to feel this way you probably not ready to trade and want to convince yourself that's the right thing Few F80/82 folks have gone to the G20 because it's fresh and does not start to feel outdated like the F80/82 who have been in the market over 5 years now. Also, comparing a non-M to an M car is not fair if your only comparison factors are speed and HP. The G20 is perfect for DD with fun and attitude and it's all season car cheers

[Jbrock22]

Originally Posted by F30ZHP

It just looks flat and paper thin.

Agreed. Door panels are awful. My kids Mazda CX-5 interior is nicer.

[MmmmmM2]

Originally Posted by Jbrock22

Agreed. Door panels are awful. My kids Mazda CX-5 interior is nicer.

My wife drives a CX-5 as well and I agree with your statement!

[GGG333]

Originally Posted by psuibmw

That's not unexpected and it's OK to feel this way you probably not ready to trade and want to convince yourself that's the right thing Few F80/82 folks have gone to the G20 because it's fresh and does not start to feel outdated like the F80/82 who have been in the market over 5 years now. Also, comparing a non-M to an M car is not fair if your only comparison factors are speed and HP. The G20 is perfect for DD with fun and attitude and it's all season car cheers

I don't need to convince myself of anything lol
It's just a basic car and my F8X doesn't feel outdated whatsoever.

I'm coming from a 11' 335 E92 & 13' 335iS and I've had an E90 prior to that , so going into a 17' 340 was not an option for me as it was nowhere close to an iS
So I grabbed a Benz lol and then an M4 a year later.

The 340 F30 didn't have a soul and now I test drove this new G20 for shits n giggles as I was actually at the dealer for an M5 and it was just as horrible. It can have the tech and the better interior, but like many others I fell in love with BMW for "Ultimate driving machine " and not " sheer driving pleasure "

It still has numb steering feedback , the exhaust is whatever and sounds identical to the Audi.
The rear end is so Lexus it's not even funny , mirror caps from Audi , and a front end that already needs an LCI just a few months into production .

Also the best part , it's a brand new model and already up to $10,000 discount off MSRP at certain dealers , that alone says everything.

I don't understand why some people feel the need to dick ride and defend this model when it's clearly an epic flop.
Just let us mourn in peace and complain in these forums

[psuibmw]

OK I'm defending no one and trying to be fair. I hated the F30 but should give BMW credit when they done the G20 right ... BTW I don't own one (yet) so I'm not biased at all. The G20 with the current discounts is the best car you can buy for mid $50k that's a fact 🤗 Also, discounts don't mean anything, my local dealer was discounting the M3CS/M4CS about $25k or more, doesn't mean those are bad cars ... Also, being fair to BMW, I like the direction they are going with the X5/X7/G20/M8 ... thanks for keeping the discussion professional

[GGG333]

Originally Posted by psuibmw

OK I'm defending no one and trying to be fair. I hated the F30 but should give BMW credit when they done the G20 right ... BTW I don't own one (yet) so I'm not biased at all. The G20 with the current discounts is the best car you can buy for mid $50k that's a fact 🤗 Also, discounts don't mean anything, my local dealer was discounting the M3CS/M4CS about $25k or more, doesn't mean those are bad cars ... Also, being fair to BMW, I like the direction they are going with the X5/X7/G20/M8 ... thanks for keeping the discussion professional

I like the X7 and somewhat the 8 but the side profile is very mustang and I can't help but feel bmw has seriously lost its way but to each his own.

They'll lose my business and earn yours and it won't matter.

[bimmer813]

So did you two kids like the Doug Demuro video?

Lol if you want to complain to each other, do it in DMs. No need to ruin a thread.

I’m excited for the new M3, hopefully it is a bit more raw and offers a 6-speed.

[itsglen]

Originally Posted by DK__LA

I like the X7 and somewhat the 8 but the side profile is very mustang and I can't help but feel bmw has seriously lost its way but to each his own.

They'll lose my business and earn yours and it won't matter.

You shared you are moving on to an SUV - given your taste in cars and mods (you have some very pricey and nice stuff for sale) - where are you headed? Lambo? X5M?

[GGG333]

Originally Posted by itsglen

You shared you are moving on to an SUV - given your taste in cars and mods (you have some very pricey and nice stuff for sale) - where are you headed? Lambo? X5M?

Still undecided, looking at M5.
I think the car is perfect but I miss the DCT feeling and I'm not a fan of the interior color choices.

Lambo is nowhere near the budget 😂

[GGG333]

Originally Posted by bimmer813

So did you two kids like the Doug Demuro video?

Lol if you want to complain to each other, do it in DMs. No need to ruin a thread.

I'm excited for the new M3, hopefully it is a bit more raw and offers a 6-speed.

More excited for the M4 because I have a feeling it won't look like a Lexus and more like a mini 8 without the Moostang side profile

[Transfer]

There are some of us who prefer our pedestrian vehicles cost let's say less than $60k, and are enjoyable all year. Nothing else out there really as far as I know. I'm sad to lose my M3 but need to to get something more practical. I personally would never consider an F8x but I guess it makes sense over M340i if someone wants RWD. God knows they've depreciated enough.

[psuibmw]

So not to ruin the thread for the OP, let it fade out

[Transfer]

Originally Posted by psuibmw

So not to ruin the thread for the OP, let it fade out

The discussion is quite relevant to the review though. Doug feels this car is a good deal all things considered. I'm not sure I would call it a good deal but you certainly get what you pay for at the price point and it beats the competition as far as I'm concerned. If someone is coming from, and only interested in, M cars or other $80-100-120k vehicles then yeah they're gonna say this great $60k car is trash. But it's not. At all. And the Doug score is fairly positive.

[GGG333]

Originally Posted by Transfer

The discussion is quite relevant to the review though. Doug feels this car is a good deal all things considered. I'm not sure I would call it a good deal but you certainly get what you pay for at the price point and it beats the competition as far as I'm concerned. If someone is coming from, and only interested in, M cars or other $80-100-120k vehicles then yeah they're gonna say this great $60k car is trash. But it's not. At all. And the Doug score is fairly positive.

But here's the thing , personally I am only interested in high performance vehicles.
However I don't consider the 65K C43 trash lol
I actually find it to be an amazing car and superior to the 340 and truth be told , if I was in the $600 a month market to lease , I'd take the Benz 100%.

Do I want it to be like this ? Of course not. I'm a BMW
guy and I want the brand to be on top.
But I'll be critical when necessary only because I love the brand so much.

I think it's important that in this forum we realize we are all here because we clearly love the brand.

[Transfer]

Originally Posted by DK__LA

But here's the thing , personally I am only interested in high performance vehicles.
However I don't consider the 65K C43 trash lol
I actually find it to be an amazing car and superior to the 340 and truth be told , if I was in the $600 a month market to lease , I'd take the Benz 100%.

Do I want it to be like this ? Of course not. I'm a BMW
guy and I want the brand to be on top.
But I'll be critical when necessary only because I love the brand so much.

I think it's important that in this forum we realize we are all here because we clearly love the brand.

I guess I just disagree. I did two M340i xDrive test drives including aggressive driving up to 110mph and it felt fantastic. Very similar to my E92 M3 just with a different engine. I've driven the Benz and it's fast, handles great, and I personally do like the looks and interior but to me it's all equal to the bimmer but with a rough ride as a negative. The M340i leases for less as well.

[GGG333]

Originally Posted by Transfer

I guess I just disagree. I did two M340i xDrive test drives including aggressive driving up to 110mph and it felt fantastic. Very similar to my E92 M3 just with a different engine. I've driven the Benz and it's fast, handles great, and I personally do like the looks and interior but to me it's all equal to the bimmer but with a rough ride as a negative. The M340i leases for less as well.

Well there you go , the rough ride is a positive to me
To each his own , didn't mean to insult anyone btw !

Enjoy the car in good health !