[solstice]

Originally Posted by Jockey

What category is doesn't look like a BMW?

Whiner category. You asked...

[Jockey]

Originally Posted by solstice

Whiner category. You asked...

Well it's neither an evolution or revolution hence my question.

It's even more obvious from the side profile that it doesn't look like a BMW.

[EuroSpec27]

Looks like a Lexus IMO. No thanks.

[funkahdafi]

To me, the new 4 is the new 6.

[cactusjack]

I think the word you're looking for is " shitty"

[solstice]

Originally Posted by Jockey

Well it's neither an evolution or revolution hence my question.

It's even more obvious from the side profile that it doesn't look like a BMW.

Yeah, sorry that was a juvenile comment. It is definitely in the revolutionary design category when a design can’t be recognized as belonging to the brand, if that’s what you think.

[bartginger]

I miss the Hofmeister kink more than anything. And the rear-end overhang on the new one is huge.

[chrisny]

Originally Posted by SchwarzerReiter

From the side it looks like a smaller 8 series. And despite hating this car, i dont get the hate the new hoffmeister kink gets. It's the same thing, it's just that the rear window has an upwards tilt, which makes the whole car more dynamic if you ask me.

Why is the rear overhang so big though? In general, why did they make this car bigger?

There is no such thing as the "new" Hofmeister kink. There is the one that was on all BMW's since the 60's, named after the guy that designed it. Just one.. this new thing, you can call it a kink I guess, but it isn't Hofmeister's....

[antzcrashing]

I suppose it is the natural evolution but it seems to be abandoning the heritage of the kink. The profile looks more like a lexus or nissan than a bmw

[kmarei]

Question
With such a large grille
What happens in a frontal collision?
What strengthens the front part?
Is there a metal beam running behind the grille ?

[Alaberti]

This kind of reminds me of the bangle era, where BMW attempted more creative approaches to try and find themselves. I applaud them for their effort here and look forward to the refinement and different takes this era will bring because, more than likely, they'll settle on something most people like and can move forward. Maybe we'll look back on this and see a diamond in the rough in ten years? Maybe not.

And so the wheel turns.

[KoenG]

Originally Posted by Alaberti

This kind of reminds me of the bangle era, where BM W tried more creative approaches to try and find themselves. I applaud then for their efforts and look forward to the refinement and different takes this era will bring because, more than likely, they'll settle on something most people like and can move forward.

And so the wheel turns.

I don't applaud them to make the same dumb mistakes of the paste. They should already understand that deviant/mutant design is not necessarily innovative nor trend setting.

[SabineBimmer]

Originally Posted by solstice

Evolutinary or revolutionary?

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To me the G22 looks more like an evolutionary design to the E92 than from the F32.

Regressive.

No longer looks like it's moving whilst being still. The A- and B-pillars are fighting with the lack of the H. kink.

One of the few good things is the lack of a Pep Boys vent behind front wheel well

[Cl0ud7]

Originally Posted by Chihuahua

Styling is way too Asian for me, when I look at all of those cars together the new 4er looks like the one that doesn't belong.

I 2nd this...reminds me of the Infiniti Q60 or whatever they renamed the 2door coupe too.

[SabineBimmer]

Originally Posted by Cl0ud7

I 2nd this...reminds me of the Infiniti Q60 or whatever they renamed the 2door coupe too.

I'm thinking BMW cares little of what the Europe or US market thinks. The Chinese market is where it's at now, they're simply following the money. The accountants have been running the show for quite some time.

[Winemaker2]

I like the looks of the new G22. Before we all get in the face of BMW, has anyone checked out the new Audi's which were suppose to challenge BMW with their S and RS series. Bigger f'ing grills. The entire market is against the not-so-old school traditionalists. Although, I am personally old school. What think tanks did they hire to make this what appears to be a global market trend.

[praxis218]

Originally Posted by SabineBimmer

I'm thinking BMW cares little of what the Europe or US market thinks. The Chinese market is where it's at now, they're simply following the money. The accountants have been running the show for quite some time.

There was an interview where the BMW rep said the Chinese market accounts for roughly 10% of 4-series sales and it wasn't factored into the grill design.

[18340i]

who cares if it's evolutionary, all that matters is that you don't have to look at the front with the side view.

[SabineBimmer]

Originally Posted by praxis218

There was an interview where the BMW rep said the Chinese market accounts for roughly 10% of 4-series sales and it wasn't factored into the grill design.

Really! Thanks for info, but I'm surprised actually. Will try to find it and again, thanks.

[SabineBimmer]

Originally Posted by SabineBimmer

Really! Thanks for info, but I'm surprised actually. Will try to find it and again, thanks.

So I went digging and found this:

https://www.bmwgroup.com/content/dam...anzbericht.pdf

This is the 2019 Annual Report. Take a gander, some concerning notes:

1. 4-series sales are down 31.5% from 2018
2. Profit-before-tax is down
3. They advertise the glut of new models as: "The biggest model offensive in our history continues.
Nearly all model series have been updated over the past two years. They will be joined this year by new models like the BMW 2 Series Gran Coupé, highly profitable BMW M models, new plug-in hybrids and electric models. Our portfolio is younger, more attractive and more technologically diverse than ever before. This allows us to meet every customer's needs and desires – no matter where they are in the world. As a result we are challenging the competition in every segment."
4. My key point, and also why I think China is where the money is at:

[Peertwelve]

Originally Posted by solstice

Evolutinary or revolutionary?

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To me the G22 looks more like an evolutionary design to the E92 than from the F32.

I agree with you. The G22 has the hips from the E92. And the new car has clean lines like the 46. And a face only a mother could love

[nublu2u]

Certainly not evolution, Dukec just trashed 5 generations of design cues carefully incorporated by previous designers, that connection some folks see with the brand. So revolution it is, let the purge begin!