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      06-25-2020, 12:50 PM   #89
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I think I see some major wheel gap. Possibly due to xDrive? Ruins the look in my opinion.
Maybe this will be solved when production wheels and tires are on the car?
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I agree. I don't understand how anybody can put springs on these cars is beyond me.
Because automakers always make cars too stiff and they think that means its "sporty" when in reality you want softer springs or spring rates for more grip and stability. Im pretty sure dinan springs are softer than normal and some decent RND goes into making springs for M cars.
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      06-25-2020, 01:01 PM   #92
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I agree. I don't understand how anybody can put springs on these cars is beyond me.
Coz stance bro, gotta lose that arch gap.

I know it happens a lot , some people are clueless..
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      06-25-2020, 01:16 PM   #93
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At 01:59: "We put a lot of effort into eliminating disturbance from the steering system such as road force generated by friction"

Did they just brag about eliminating steering feedback?!
The steering feedback ship has sailed long time ago. EPS in current designs just isn’t capable of it. No, not even Porsche’s.

With that in mind I’m not really concerned about the statement above. I’m more curious to see how it has evolved into a better tool for performance driving. Same story as the ship for NA type of engines have sailed with all the glory they are capable of and now it’s no longer about comparing the FI engines to them but to see how the FI engines evolve and improve on their strengths.

The friction feedback elimination is nevertheless disturbing in historic context...
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      06-25-2020, 01:36 PM   #94
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At 01:59: "We put a lot of effort into eliminating disturbance from the steering system such as road force generated by friction"

Did they just brag about eliminating steering feedback?!
I was upbeat about the video until that part, and then a part of me just wanted to cry.
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      06-25-2020, 01:55 PM   #96
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If those are production headlights in the video then definitely the G20 face (Normal sized grilles) will make it to the G80 as the headlight-grille integration & the e46 style kinked headlights are clearly visible.
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Lol @ those who think this is new footage and hoping for a smaller nose.
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If those are production headlights in the video...
They aren't. In pictures of more recent test mules you can very clearly see the G22 headlights.
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They aren't. In pictures of more recent test mules you can very clearly see the G22 headlights.
If the large nose unfortunately appears then In my opinion the M340i will end up being the best variant to pick from this generation/iteration of the 3'er.
However, lets hope for the best.
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Because automakers always make cars too stiff and they think that means its "sporty" when in reality you want softer springs or spring rates for more grip and stability. Im pretty sure dinan springs are softer than normal and some decent RND goes into making springs for M cars.
I understand your logic, it's just in my opinion you either invest in some quality coilovers or just leave it as is.
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I think I see some major wheel gap. Possibly due to xDrive? Ruins the look in my opinion.
Dude you made me laugh

Because racetrack

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If the large nose unfortunately appears then In my opinion the M340i will end up being the best variant to pick from this generation/iteration of the 3'er.
However, lets hope for the best.
If you don’t mind being lapped that is
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Like I wrote in another thread, they don't want to scare off the customers too soon. BMW hopes that by the time the car has been revealed the performance figures will attract people despite the ugliness.
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I think I see some major wheel gap. Possibly due to xDrive? Ruins the look in my opinion.
Dude you made me laugh

Because racetrack

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Care to elaborate? I know it can be exaggerated in certain conditions but it looked like that even on some straighter looking parts of the road. Or does it take time to settle once you change the wheels? Didn't know it takes that long.
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Cosmetics aside, you can tell the engineers really put a lot of development into the overall driving dynamics.

I've always been hesitant to lower any car with just "springs" and this proves it, as they test multiple different shock/damper settings until they are happy. Changing the springs would just ruin that completely, coilovers would be a completely different story.
No true car guy puts just springs on their car IMO. Go coilovers or leave it alone.
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Like I wrote in another thread, they don't want to scare off the customers too soon. BMW hopes that by the time the car has been revealed the performance figures will attract people despite the ugliness.
True. Even if the car gets alot of negative public attention due to looks, it's still attention generated.

If the M340ix is any indication of performance, then these will surely be monsters! (albeit ugly monsters).
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I can't believe that there are actually still people who think that the M3 will not get the big grill. Do you actually know what an effort is invested in the construction and qualification of a front bumper. It would be far too expensive to offer different front bumpers for the two vehicles.

The vehicle shown in the video is clearly an older test vehicle which does not have the final bodywork components.

Don't get any false hopes and try to get used to the new look. At least the BMW models are now more different again, not like Mercedes or Audi.
I mean...they already offer the different bumper styles in the 3 sedan vs 4 coupe. I don't think it's a stretch to imagine the styling going it's own way on the M3.
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Care to elaborate? I know it can be exaggerated in certain conditions but it looked like that even on some straighter looking parts of the road. Or does it take time to settle once you change the wheels? Didn't know it takes that long.
Sorry I wasn't trying to be flip

Those are not the production fenders

That's actually why you're seeing so much wheel gap
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