[MilehighM3]

Originally Posted by Boss330

Shmee150 already revealed that in his testdrive and the video in the OP also has a shot of the front tires.

275/35R19 front

No one should ever watch a shmee video or if they do it should be on mute with screen minimized. He's so annoying!

[5218201a]

They don't need to make so much teasing videos if the actual car was nice and sexy.

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by antzcrashing

Will the manual transmission only be available in the base model?
Will the base model be available with an automatic transmission as well?

3 choices:
Base 480hp 6MT RWD
Competition 510hp 8AT RWD
Competition 510hp 8AT AWD

[Fraggy]

Originally Posted by Scrippy

8 speed steptronic huh? I wonder how this trans will compare to DCT when it comes to shift speed & intensity. I've heard torque converters have come a long way and can feel like a DCT but I am doubtful.

I dunno, but I do know I enjoy the transmission in my M340 far more than the DCT of my previous F80.

[antzcrashing]

Originally Posted by Fraggy

I dunno, but I do know I enjoy the transmission in my M340 far more than the DCT of my previous F80.

Why's that?

[jdub486]

Here’s my predicted review for the new m3/ m4:

*Incredibly fast but sounds mediocre and synthetic
*Excellent, well balanced chassis spoiled by lack of steering feel
*Tech and interior quality not quite on par with Audi
*Soon to be extinct amg v8 engine sounds better as usual
*Strange front end styling ruins otherwise clean design
*Wait for next gen m2 to see if it’s smaller/ lighter/ better looking

I have to admit the Isle of Man green looks tempting though!

[bmrm396]

Originally Posted by 19x

At least we know where BMW is headed... nowhere.

This is exactly what I thought after seeing that stupid new 4 series commercial ... womp womp.

BMW M used to be my ticket for almost 19yrs now and for the first time I'm confident I won't be stepping into the next M. Holding my current M3cs and when I'm over it I'll put it in the garage and find something else for my DD.

They're clearly pushing the enthusiasts away, so ok then, see ya ...

[Luminor513]

Originally Posted by robrwalker

This is truly sad. It's like the head of M has no M in his heart.

This is exactly what I was thinking. And the racing gloves? For what, he was driving calmly around a track. He could have been driving a Cadillac.

[LOW4LYF]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

And that's the problem, too many "average Joes" getting into these car.

I couldn't agree more! Seriously...

One fact why I sold my lovely F82 is the F8x community. Once cars getting cheap and slammed by kids it's time to move for me for something new.

With $700 CS leases the F8x got just to affordable... sorry!

[Teutonic]

Originally Posted by bmrm396

This is exactly what I thought after seeing that stupid new 4 series commercial ... womp womp.

BMW M used to be my ticket for almost 19yrs now and for the first time I'm confident I won't be stepping into the next M. Holding my current M3cs and when I'm over it I'll put it in the garage and find something else for my DD.

They're clearly pushing the enthusiasts away, so ok then, see ya ...

Sadly, I have similar thoughts...

[FrozenE92M3]

Originally Posted by Bch53211

Can’t wait for this car . I have 100% trust in the development team. The more the dinosaurs bitch the more faith I have that this car will be amazing. This dude is exactly how I want a German car manufacturer to act. Cold, calculated and and unapologetic. All the fossils can go drive some older , uglier heavier version they are so nostalgic about. Newer always = better when it comes to performance cars.

Damn I guess I'm a 27 year old dinosaur since I'm (rightfully) bitching about this mess. I'm usually tolerant with people's opinion and try my best to put myself in their shoes, but you can stick your opinion up your ass.

[Scrippy]

Originally Posted by Fraggy

I dunno, but I do know I enjoy the transmission in my M340 far more than the DCT of my previous F80.

Is yours the steptronic? How does it feel and how is it's responsiveness in manual mode? Was your DCT faster in manual mode? I don't mind the DCT's brutal application because it gives me what gears I want when I want them. I imagine the steptronic to be smoother but slower. What are your thoughts there?

[The Choosey begger]

Looks like BMW put the bean counter in charge of the M division!

[iamvanja]

Originally Posted by drjoe66

Well, I am German and I am enthusiastic about M cars. Maybe not about the new M3......maybe he looked at the front of the car before he got in to drive it.

The comments about him weren't if he is enthusiastic, but if he was showing his enthusiasm.

[DS_BMW]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

4000lb AWD 8AT car.

There is a RWD manual version.

[mbanck]

Originally Posted by antzcrashing

Will the manual transmission only be available in the base model?
Will the base model be available with an automatic transmission as well?

This has been announced a while ago: https://g20.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1735162

Official Power Levels:

Standard G80 M3 / G82 M4 -- 480 hp, 6 Speed Manual (Standard), RWD.
Competition G80 M3 / G82 M4 -- 510 hp, 8 Speed Auto (Standard), RWD (Standard), AWD (Optional - arrives at later date)

So the standard/base G8x will be 6MT, all Competition models will be 8AT, with the RWD version launched first and the AWD version launched later. No DCT.

[jb001]

There's going to be a market for an aftermarket carbon fiber struttbrace. And I also see a market, to replace the rear floating single piston calipers. Maybe a custom bracket to match and mount an OEM f serie's double piston caliper.

[Thunderstorm]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

And that's the problem, too many "average Joes" getting into these car.

You realise it's the sales to all those average Joes that make building an M Car financially feasible in the first Place? They won't bother developing a Car for 100 so called "Enthusiasts".

Also for the People bitching about floating Calipers: Brake development has moved on over the last decade. If it's good enough for an AMG GT-R i'm sure it will be halfway decent for an M3 / M4.

[LOW4LYF]

Originally Posted by Thunderstorm

You realise it's the sales to all those average Joes that make building an M Car financially feasible in the first Place? They won't bother developing a Car for 100 so called "Enthusiasts".

Also for the People bitching about floating Calipers: Brake development has moved on over the last decade. If it's good enough for an AMG GT-R i'm sure it will be halfway decent for an M3 / M4.

Idk but some people think M Cars are top of the line!

Every M Car (except some as GTS etc.) are just sportier production cars, that's it!
You can take the G80 to get a coffee, or something heavy at home depot but also next day to the track.

These cars are perfect all-rounder, that's it.

I bet 80 percent of all M drivers can't even push their own car to the limit.

[Carguy1994]

Originally Posted by F32Fleet

ZF8HP will allow AWD which will enable less traction related power loss.

RWD isn't worth squat if you're spinning the tires all day.. This was a weakness of the F8X.

Proper set of tires will fix that.

[NorCalAthlete]

I'm entertained by some of the complaints about him not showing enough excitement.

Hasn't it long been a trope / stereotype of the no-nonsense, calm, stoic, factual German demeanor?

[marvinp]

Originally Posted by Wills2

Seats are shared with the X3/4M and M8, really nice chairs.

Definitely feels like BMW has been trying to save cost by sharing things across models. Like the M3/M4 having the same engine as the X3M/X4M.