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Originally Posted by JTO24

I think the render gets the middle of the front bumper below the grills a little wrong. I think I can make out a bit of lower intake design (lines in red). Blue is a trace of the parts of the grill that are visible.

Even if the grille is not as tall it still looks ridiculous. Guess if BMW continues to not listen to their customers they will learn their lesson the hard way, with low sales.

[MachinesWithSouls]

Everyone is going bananas over the grilles. You guys realize this may be the last M3 with a piston engine, yes? Then the damn thing won't even need grilles.

[Jockey]

Thought about it more




Nope, still sucks

[Miko M]

Originally Posted by SoManyBlueCars

Everyone is going bananas over the grilles. You guys realize this may be the last M3 with a piston engine, yes? Then the damn thing won't even need grilles.

That's the point.

We want to grab the latest dying piston engine.

But also want to look nice and not ugly

[M 4EVER]

Originally Posted by Miko M

That's the point.

We want to grab the latest dying piston engine.

But also want to look nice and not ugly

I was thinking the same.

Don't know what to get now, need the 4 door for mine kids but not sure if I would buy this now.

Very disappointed!

[BMWRL]

Originally Posted by gatorfast

Found another leaked pic of the rear

Tail lights will be similar to the new X6's which just debuted. And in line with the iVision Dynamics concept.

They will be a thin line from the middle of the trunk and kink up at the outer edges and near the hips.

I really don't know why there is so much speculation, we already know what it will look like, very similar if not almost identical to the iVision Dynmics concept.

[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by amw896

new mid engine corvette will be 30% cheaper than this donkey mobile. I know where my money is going next.

It's interesting because the new Vette has my attention, and for the first time ever. I mean, ever. Never wanted them and have always made fun of them...they've always seemed...cheesy somehow, compared to the "real thing" from Italy, Germany, and Japan.

I am ready to happily eat crow if the new one is as good/fun to drive as it looks. Wow - it seriously looks like it could be in the 200+K bucket, based solely upon the side profile. It looks like a Ferarri or Lambo.

The interior and quality of materials has always been a low point for the Vette - but this new version looks promising on those fronts as well. I can't wait to see one - and for the same money as an M2C? Definitely have to give it a look on that fact alone.

[yuKon22]

I'd prefer this please BMW ....


https://images.app.goo.gl/3DeWC6C5LUzeRDUq8

[Fugly M3]

Originally Posted by dmboone25

It's interesting because the new Vette has my attention, and for the first time ever. I mean, ever. Never wanted them and have always made fun of them...they've always seemed...cheesy somehow, compared to the "real thing" from Italy, Germany, and Japan.

I am ready to happily eat crow if the new one is as good/fun to drive as it looks. Wow - it seriously looks like it could be in the 200+K bucket, based solely upon the side profile. It looks like a Ferarri or Lambo.

The interior and quality of materials has always been a low point for the Vette - but this new version looks promising on those fronts as well. I can't wait to see one - and for the same money as an M2C? Definitely have to give it a look on that fact alone.

Literally the same here.

[Miko M]

Originally Posted by dmboone25

It's interesting because the new Vette has my attention, and for the first time ever. I mean, ever. Never wanted them and have always made fun of them...they've always seemed...cheesy somehow, compared to the "real thing" from Italy, Germany, and Japan.

I am ready to happily eat crow if the new one is as good/fun to drive as it looks. Wow - it seriously looks like it could be in the 200+K bucket, based solely upon the side profile. It looks like a Ferarri or Lambo.

The interior and quality of materials has always been a low point for the Vette - but this new version looks promising on those fronts as well. I can't wait to see one - and for the same money as an M2C? Definitely have to give it a look on that fact alone.

I am not sure if you know but there has been big low suites vs. GM because the old generation had huge problems with overheating and some engine problems.

They could make couple laps without going into limp mode.

Not saying this will be the same at all but the engineering and quality is just :

I love the way it looks but I could never move to GM or Ford etc...

Ford is in huge financial trouble because of huge recalls, already cutting 10% staff
They are facing one of the biggest lawsuit too because of transmission problems that they were hiding.

No thanks for me, I rather drive ugly car the GM or Ford!!!

[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by Miko M

I am not sure if you know but there has been big low suites vs. GM because the old generation had huge problems with overheating and some engine problems.

They could make couple laps without going into limp mode.

Not saying this will be the same at all but the engineering and quality is just :

I love the way it looks but I could never move to GM or Ford etc...

Ford is in huge financial trouble because of huge recalls, already cutting 10% staff
They are facing one of the biggest lawsuit too because of transmission problems that they were hiding.

No thanks for me, I rather drive ugly car the GM or Ford!!!

The reliability/longevity and overall quality for the new C8 are obviously valid discussion points and concerns - I have no idea if I would want to keep one long term...but I am not sure I would want to keep any car long term to be honest.

I would be curious, for example, to see the purchase vs. lease breakdown for the F80/82. From an anecdotal perspective, it appears that many people lease M cars...and BMWs in general, at least in the US. Given that my F80 is covered by warranty for manufacturing defects over the course of my lease...I guess I am not so worried about how well the thing would run in 5, 7, or 10 years. I would apply similar logic to the C8 - surely it couldn't be too bad for a few years.

And if it is? Well...then I wouldn't bother with another one. But it is certainly a worthy candidate for me to pop my American car cherry, at least from a looks and value perspective.

[evanescent03]

Originally Posted by SoManyBlueCars

Everyone is going bananas over the grilles. You guys realize this may be the last M3 with a piston engine, yes? Then the damn thing won't even need grilles.

lol .... maybe so!

[535i MSport]

Originally Posted by Miko M

That's the point.

We want to grab the latest dying piston engine.

But also want to look nice and not ugly

F80 prices will firm perhaps?

[AxelR]

Looks like a combination of Toyota Camry in the rear and Alfa Romeo in the front.
Not sure I like it.

Had a 330 loaner a week ago. Not loving the interior either (besides the screens which are much nicer).

I guess it might grow on me but I doubt it.

[CLEANM4]

Nope!!! Looks like someone is keeping his F82 😁[IMG][/IMG]

[Miko M]

Originally Posted by CLEANM4

Nope!!! Looks like someone is keeping his F82 😁[IMG][/IMG]

Most people think that way now.

BTW the sign in the back is cool

[unc879wins]

BMW Transplant Team;
Kidneys out.
Lungs in.

Seriously though, the power this version will have will make the cosmetics an afterthought.

[evanescent03]

Originally Posted by Miko M

I am not sure if you know but there has been big low suites vs. GM because the old generation had huge problems with overheating and some engine problems.

They could make couple laps without going into limp mode.

Not saying this will be the same at all but the engineering and quality is just :

I love the way it looks but I could never move to GM or Ford etc...

Ford is in huge financial trouble because of huge recalls, already cutting 10% staff
They are facing one of the biggest lawsuit too because of transmission problems that they were hiding.

No thanks for me, I rather drive ugly car the GM or Ford!!!

No car is perfect. The Z06 did have lots of overheating issues but the stingray, grand sport and their corvette powered Camaros never had those issues. I've loved my M3s and M6GC CP but I swapped to a Camaro SS 1LE for a while and talk about track beast for a killer price.. so much noise and drama on the street too. Honestly the seats and suspension in that car were better than the M3 also. Faster around a track than my 718S or F80s with lots of confidence at the limit. Not "the whole package" but definitely sweet for what it is.

As a track car, this new Vette will destroy the other sub $100k cars (cayman GTS, gt350, ZL1, M2, M3, Alfa QV, etc). You'll have to get a 911S to get close but that's starting at $50k more... however, it does also add a back seat and manual option.

I hope this M3 grille looks better than these renderings, has manual option (with full power) and is low 3 seconds off the line and I'll still consider it because an all-rounder is still really appealing to me but if this thing looks too funky it may push me away and my wife may say "uhh no" so it'd be a non-starter lol.

[omasou]

No please no

[bobloblaw]

The problem with this is that it doesn't look aggressive. If you make the kidneys normal size, does this scream M3?

I don't think so. They take up so much space that there's less room for aggressive design details. I really hope if they go this route that the kidneys overlap a "mouth" in the front bumper and aren't just pasted on like in the rendering.

[enigma01]

Ummm say what? The overheating issue was specific to the Z06, and only after 3-4 laps on the track.

Speaking of engine issues, BMW had their own share of issues with the N54 turbo pump, S65 rod bearing, etc.

JDPower dependability shows BMW and Chevy pretty close and well ahead many "premium" bands (e.g. MB): https://www.jdpower.com/Cars/Ratings.../Manufacturers

If you are that closed minded to look beyond a few anecdotal stories or American car stereo-types, then you perhaps do deserve fangled/Lexusified BMWs.

Originally Posted by Miko M

I am not sure if you know but there has been big low suites vs. GM because the old generation had huge problems with overheating and some engine problems.

They could make couple laps without going into limp mode.

Not saying this will be the same at all but the engineering and quality is just :

I love the way it looks but I could never move to GM or Ford etc...

Ford is in huge financial trouble because of huge recalls, already cutting 10% staff
They are facing one of the biggest lawsuit too because of transmission problems that they were hiding.

No thanks for me, I rather drive ugly car the GM or Ford!!!

[whitedc5]

That's gunna be a no from me dawg