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I'm not surprised by weight increase as it is significantly larger than before. It is officially 2/10th of a second faster in 2WD than 340i, didn't feel much difference when I drove one as I have MPPSK so I have 369 lb ft, which is the same as M340i but less horsepower. So the additional heft may cancel out some of that.
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You're referring to " seat of the pants" do you have numbers from reputable sources to back that up? 1/4 miles times etc. We already know the M340i's performance is more than what the its spec would have you believe. It's significantly faster than the C43 AMG for example, same goes for all it's direct competitors regardless of their stock performance specifications.
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I guess the only sure way to compare the weights of two cars is to find both cars on the same source website (https://www.ultimatespecs.com/car-sp...-LCI-340i.html) although I find the difference here hard to believe as it gives a curb weight for each with a 160kg difference: F30 340i MT 1605kg G20 330i 1445kg That's a heck of a difference even taking into account the two cylinder drop in engine size!! Last edited by nozydog; 02-06-2020 at 06:39 AM.. |
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The only way to know is by weighing your car. Also, does it really matter? If you drive the car and it drives the way you want, does it really matter how much it weighs? We all want light cars, but I have a feeling most people don't realize how much weight options add to a car. |
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The G20 does not feel or drive like a heavy car, if you want a car that feels lighter, get a 2 series. The M5 is heavy, though powerful but people are not dissuade by the heft. 3 series has never felt or drove like a heavy car even when we had versions with less than 200 hp.
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F30 340i RWD; Weight, unladen, to DIN/EU kg 1530 / 1605 (MT). G20 330i RWD; Weight, unladen, to DIN/EU kg 1470 / 1545 (Auto). |
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My main gripe is the size. I haven’t been able to adjust to how big this car has become. It’s hard to zip through traffic and just toss it around. I even feel it while parking. It’s too damn big. |
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I'd assume that the G20, especially with a limited slip is a good improvement over the F30, and I don't think it gained much weight, so probably all good changes. There are certainly times that I miss rwd, and with the comeback of the mechanical LSD to BMW, if they made a 175", 3,200 pound sedan with an available manual, I'd come right back. But they're not going to. I'm still holding out hope that Porsche will eventually build the smaller sedan they've threatened for years, but suspect Audi won't let them. |
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What is the new smaller "Mini" version of bimmer called? That "might" be an answer, but it is probably just a little too small.
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I've had many 5 series. The E39 was the last 5er that didn't 'feel' heavy. Weight really IS the enemy and where that weigh is carried in the car matters too. If you have ever driven a hard top convertible..... top up and top down are different worlds.
Thats why the last M3 axed the sunroof and fitted a carbon fiber roof. That makes a huge difference. The carbon fiber drive shaft not so much. |
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I thought the 1445kg given on my source site for the 330i seemed a bit light, I reckon it's an error that should been 1545. Last edited by nozydog; 02-08-2020 at 11:21 AM.. |
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