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      04-27-2019, 02:25 PM   #67
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I'm coming from an F80 and am planning on looking at both the S4 and M340. I think I like the S4 looks inside an out better especially the interior Nappa seats and carbon trim (versus the gray plastic in the M340) and my initial assumption was that the performance is somewhat similar so I was leaning S4. Have you driven both and can offer any differences?

I need to drive both to figure out if any call out to me. Biggest concern is regret coming from the M3.
I drove both in the same week. What I was looking for was a car that ‘responded’ to me. Nothing is as disappointing as turbo lag to me. I’ve even noted how cars are coming with superchargers and turbo chargers (the other car in my house is a Volvo XC90) now. The S4 has more turbo lag, even at lower acceleration demand. The S4 handled less well. The M340 felt like it was made to driven hard and fast, but behaved when it was time to. I didn’t think they were similar and the drive and performance of the M340 made it a pretty easy decision for me. As always, these are my opinions.
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I test drove an xdrive M340i this morning. Overall the car is fun as a daily driver with a lot of power and great tech. But I felt like my 230i with Dinan is more fun. I'm trying to find a car with more practicality, but don't want to sacrifice on the fun factor too much. Maybe the RWD one has what I'm missing? Or I guess I'll wait for the new M3.
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I test drove an xdrive M340i this morning. Overall the car is fun as a daily driver with a lot of power and great tech. But I felt like my 230i with Dinan is more fun. I'm trying to find a car with more practicality, but don't want to sacrifice on the fun factor too much. Maybe the RWD one has what I'm missing? Or I guess I'll wait for the new M3.
I think you're set up for failure, the 2 series is the best driving BMW because of how small and nimble it is, not to mention the 230i is also the lightest. Trying to go to anything bigger or more practical won't feel as good even with more power because of how small the 2 series is. The size and weight of the 2 is what helps it be as good as it is. I don't think RWD will add the special feeling you want, it might help the car feel less heavy, but anything compared to a 2 series won't feel as good in my opinion.

Honestly 2 is the new 3.
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I think your set up for failure, the 2 series is the best driving BMW because of how small and nimble it is, not to mention the 230i is also the lightest. Trying to go to anything bigger or more practical won't feel as good even with more power because of how small the 2 series is. The size and weight of the 2 is what helps it be as good as it is. I don't think RWD will add the special feeling you want, it might help the car feel less heavy, but anything compared to a 2 series won't feel as good in my opinion.

Honestly 2 is the new 3.
I think you're right. I just need to decide what is more important for me: fun or practicality!
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I think your set up for failure, the 2 series is the best driving BMW because of how small and nimble it is, not to mention the 230i is also the lightest. Trying to go to anything bigger or more practical won't feel as good even with more power because of how small the 2 series is. The size and weight of the 2 is what helps it be as good as it is. I don't think RWD will add the special feeling you want, it might help the car feel less heavy, but anything compared to a 2 series won't feel as good in my opinion.

Honestly 2 is the new 3.
Spot on, good sir! The 2 Series is the size on an E30 I would think.
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My boss has an E90 328i and my F30 340i looks ginormous next to it.
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I think your set up for failure, the 2 series is the best driving BMW because of how small and nimble it is, not to mention the 230i is also the lightest. Trying to go to anything bigger or more practical won't feel as good even with more power because of how small the 2 series is. The size and weight of the 2 is what helps it be as good as it is. I don't think RWD will add the special feeling you want, it might help the car feel less heavy, but anything compared to a 2 series won't feel as good in my opinion.

Honestly 2 is the new 3.
Exactly why I’ve been hoping for a 4 door 2 series with B58 engine, 6MT and RWD
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I think your set up for failure, the 2 series is the best driving BMW because of how small and nimble it is, not to mention the 230i is also the lightest. Trying to go to anything bigger or more practical won't feel as good even with more power because of how small the 2 series is. The size and weight of the 2 is what helps it be as good as it is. I don't think RWD will add the special feeling you want, it might help the car feel less heavy, but anything compared to a 2 series won't feel as good in my opinion.

Honestly 2 is the new 3.
Exactly why I've been hoping for a 4 door 2 series with B58 engine, 6MT and RWD
One can dream! I too would love for this to be a real thing.
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I think your set up for failure, the 2 series is the best driving BMW because of how small and nimble it is, not to mention the 230i is also the lightest. Trying to go to anything bigger or more practical won't feel as good even with more power because of how small the 2 series is. The size and weight of the 2 is what helps it be as good as it is. I don't think RWD will add the special feeling you want, it might help the car feel less heavy, but anything compared to a 2 series won't feel as good in my opinion.

Honestly 2 is the new 3.
Exactly why I’ve been hoping for a 4 door 2 series with B58 engine, 6MT and RWD
Once you sit in an M340, the 2 becomes outdated in terms of interior materials, quality and design I will have hard time living with it and DD it for 3 years to come
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It's the same thing with Android Auto. There are more Android OS users in the world than iOS so why not support it?
80%+ of BMW drivers use iPhone.
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Hi all, I've been driving my white M340i xdrive for about a week.

My wife has a Q7, so we test drove the SQ5 and my brother in law has an S5 sportback, so I had several extended "test" drives with both. I also test drove an S3, since no RS3 are available right now.

I was impressed with the new V6 twin turbo in the SQ5/S4/S5 sportback, but I think the B58 pulls harder, has less lag, and is more responsive. The Audis have decent exhaust sounds, but I really like the M340, esp in Sport +. I may have liked the RS3, but I don't think I could go back to a 4 banger in the S3.

I drove a heavily modded Evo for 11 years, so I think my neighbors think the Bimmer is quiet, lol. Since the Evo, I had an F10 550i and an X5 35i, so it's nice to get back to a sporty car.

I have the ZTK package and the braking and handling are great, although haven't pushed it too hard yet. I think the ride is very good, especially considering how flat it corners (adaptive suspension).

The tech is great. I couldn't figure out the trunk kick until I watched a video and having some issue connecting audio through my iPhone, but the tech is very cool. The cameras, interior lighting, etc. are all slick.

Electric steering is pretty good, the best electric rack I've owned.

If it had a 6sp manual it might just be an ideal daily driver for me. I swore I would never drive an auto, but my last 3 cars (all BMWs) were slushboxes. It's really hard to get a manual transmission now, not a lot of choices. The ZF box setup in the M340i is much better than in my X5 non mSport and also better than my 550xi. It pretty much does what I want, and with the paddle shifters it's even better. I will probably chip it at some point, but the power is really good, and I may end my streak of no tickets. It's hard to drive slow, esp on the hwy. I had been thinking I would get a fun car and a separate daily driver, but this car can fit both for now, esp with dedicated summer tires in the ZTK package. I will have to figure out something for the winter...
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I think your set up for failure, the 2 series is the best driving BMW because of how small and nimble it is, not to mention the 230i is also the lightest. Trying to go to anything bigger or more practical won't feel as good even with more power because of how small the 2 series is. The size and weight of the 2 is what helps it be as good as it is. I don't think RWD will add the special feeling you want, it might help the car feel less heavy, but anything compared to a 2 series won't feel as good in my opinion.

Honestly 2 is the new 3.
Exactly why I've been hoping for a 4 door 2 series with B58 engine, 6MT and RWD
Once you sit in an M340, the 2 becomes outdated in terms of interior materials, quality and design I will have hard time living with it and DD it for 3 years to come
While that is true, I honestly do still love the 2's analogue gauges and I honestly think iDrive 6.0 is simpler and most definitely less glitchy than 7.0.

I'm gonna wait out a few more months for the M340i so BMW can get the kinks out of the new iDrive as well as any first year issues that could possibly arise, as iDrive 7.0 seems to be the main issue plaguing new BMWs (just have a look at the X5 forum for details)
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Hi all, I've been driving my white M340i xdrive for about a week.

My wife has a Q7, so we test drove the SQ5 and my brother in law has an S5 sportback, so I had several extended "test" drives with both. I also test drove an S3, since no RS3 are available right now.

I was impressed with the new V6 twin turbo in the SQ5/S4/S5 sportback, but I think the B58 pulls harder, has less lag, and is more responsive. The Audis have decent exhaust sounds, but I really like the M340, esp in Sport +. I may have liked the RS3, but I don't think I could go back to a 4 banger in the S3.

I drove a heavily modded Evo for 11 years, so I think my neighbors think the Bimmer is quiet, lol. Since the Evo, I had an F10 550i and an X5 35i, so it's nice to get back to a sporty car.

I have the ZTK package and the braking and handling are great, although haven't pushed it too hard yet. I think the ride is very good, especially considering how flat it corners (adaptive suspension).

The tech is great. I couldn't figure out the trunk kick until I watched a video and having some issue connecting audio through my iPhone, but the tech is very cool. The cameras, interior lighting, etc. are all slick.

Electric steering is pretty good, the best electric rack I've owned.

If it had a 6sp manual it might just be an ideal daily driver for me. I swore I would never drive an auto, but my last 3 cars (all BMWs) were slushboxes. It's really hard to get a manual transmission now, not a lot of choices. The ZF box setup in the M340i is much better than in my X5 non mSport and also better than my 550xi. It pretty much does what I want, and with the paddle shifters it's even better. I will probably chip it at some point, but the power is really good, and I may end my streak of no tickets. It's hard to drive slow, esp on the hwy. I had been thinking I would get a fun car and a separate daily driver, but this car can fit both for now, esp with dedicated summer tires in the ZTK package. I will have to figure out something for the winter...
Thanks for your honest feedback...

I think it makes a decent place holder until the G80 arrives.

It's maddening to see people discount this car based on their experiences with the F30. I've been stuck in a rental (Jeep) for the last 24 hours, and can't wait to get back in my ride!
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80%+ of BMW drivers use iPhone.
I'm guessing this isn't the case in certain countries.

In the US or english speaking countries sure. But china , every latin country etc is probably 50%+ bmw users using android (when the general population would be 90%)

I write android apps for a living .... every country isn't the US / uk / australia / japan. Even germany , france, netherlands first world countries use ios far less than the english speaking countries.
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While that is true, I honestly do still love the 2's analogue gauges and I honestly think iDrive 6.0 is simpler and most definitely less glitchy than 7.0.

I'm gonna wait out a few more months for the M340i so BMW can get the kinks out of the new iDrive as well as any first year issues that could possibly arise, as iDrive 7.0 seems to be the main issue plaguing new BMWs (just have a look at the X5 forum for details)
The one thing I'm thankful for getting my F30 is the analog gauges. I want no part of the G20 gauges. They don't look good.
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I think your set up for failure, the 2 series is the best driving BMW because of how small and nimble it is, not to mention the 230i is also the lightest. Trying to go to anything bigger or more practical won't feel as good even with more power because of how small the 2 series is. The size and weight of the 2 is what helps it be as good as it is. I don't think RWD will add the special feeling you want, it might help the car feel less heavy, but anything compared to a 2 series won't feel as good in my opinion.

Honestly 2 is the new 3.
Exactly why I've been hoping for a 4 door 2 series with B58 engine, 6MT and RWD
Once you sit in an M340, the 2 becomes outdated in terms of interior materials, quality and design I will have hard time living with it and DD it for 3 years to come
While that is true, I honestly do still love the 2's analogue gauges and I honestly think iDrive 6.0 is simpler and most definitely less glitchy than 7.0.

I'm gonna wait out a few more months for the M340i so BMW can get the kinks out of the new iDrive as well as any first year issues that could possibly arise, as iDrive 7.0 seems to be the main issue plaguing new BMWs (just have a look at the X5 forum for details)
Decent strategy that's what I'm doing too
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While that is true, I honestly do still love the 2's analogue gauges and I honestly think iDrive 6.0 is simpler and most definitely less glitchy than 7.0.

I'm gonna wait out a few more months for the M340i so BMW can get the kinks out of the new iDrive as well as any first year issues that could possibly arise, as iDrive 7.0 seems to be the main issue plaguing new BMWs (just have a look at the X5 forum for details)
Don't forget there new 7.0 offers OTA updates
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Once you sit in an M340, the 2 becomes outdated in terms of interior materials, quality and design I will have hard time living with it and DD it for 3 years to come
That’s what I thought too when I got my G30, that the nicer interior and better quality materials would make it a more enjoyable daily driver than my E36. Turns out after driving it a few weeks it just became another car and from a features and interior style perspective I was indifferent to it. I’ve had the G30 for almost 2 years now and never miss it when I drive the e36. When I drive the g30 though I do miss the e36

Guess what I’m saying is that the nicer interior and materials are nice, for me they fade into the background and the driving experience is more important. When the lease on my 5 is up I’m planning on going to M2 or m3 and I don’t care about the downmarket interior relative to the 5
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In my opinion BMW nailed it on this car. I ordered the car loaded except for track package and couldn't be happier. IT is the ideal fun daily driver in which I will be using the car for. Handling is excellent, nice taunt ride, power is great, car is bigger but not by much.
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In my opinion BMW nailed it on this car. I ordered the car loaded except for track package and couldn't be happier. IT is the ideal fun daily driver in which I will be using the car for. Handling is excellent, nice taunt ride, power is great, car is bigger but not by much.
Completely agree. Reviewers and so called haters can bash this car all they want, but this is a gem.
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Just came back from a test drive and the m340i is really really good. I also test drove a S5 two weeks ago and the m340i has a much better drive train and chassis. The m340i we drove had the adaptive M Suspension and that is a must have option. Even though i couldn't swing the 340i cost, we got a 330i but only one that had the Adaptive Suspension.
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The m340i we drove had the adaptive M Suspension and that is a must have option.
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