[lukas125]

I drive a 330i m sport, and regularly see 330e’s out and about in identical colour and spec, but there appears to be something different when I look at the wheels and arches. Like the wheels are smaller or it’s riding higher. Is the 330e M on standard 18’s, with the usual m-sport suspension setup?

[wassap]

The 330e must have the standard se setup as they ride a bit higher. I must be getting old but I do like a slightly softer ride now. The Audi S line and to a lesser extent, the M-sport ride is too crash for today’s pothole ridden roads.

[xenon]

I think that’s correct, the e uses standard suspension. I’d swap the order of Audi S line and BMW though, M-Sport suspension is firmer in my opinion, my current Audi on S-Line suspension is fairly compliant. I did consider deleting M-Sport suspension on my 330i order but decided to stick with it as I prefer the lower stance.

[lukas125]

That explains it then, I knew there was something different but couldn’t put my finger on it. The M suspension is definitely firm so if comfort is important then standard is a good choice.

[xenon]

Makes quite a difference if you’re on 18” or 19” rubber too.

[stanfonj]

I’ve got a 330e M Sport Touring on order. It had to have 19” run flats (company rules - have a spare or have run flats) so I’m happy to hear it doesn’t have the M sport suspension. I was worried it might be a bit harsh.

[Beemer5to3]

Mine is on 19's with run-flats with adaptive M-sport suspension. I'd say the ride is only marginally better than my mates on 18's with the normal M-sport suspension, but it's less crashy over bumps and bad surfaces.

[Jim_330e]

Originally Posted by lukas125

That explains it then, I knew there was something different but couldn’t put my finger on it. The M suspension is definitely firm so if comfort is important then standard is a good choice.

That's how the 330e comes., even in M Sport. I'm not even sure there is an option to have M Sport suspension from factory. There are now a few companies that do lowering springs specific to the 330e.

[willougs]

Originally Posted by Jim_330e

That's how the 330e comes., even in M Sport. I'm not even sure there is an option to have M Sport suspension from factory. There are now a few companies that do lowering springs specific to the 330e.

Doesnt the M Sport Pro package come with M Sport Suspension?

The M Sport Pro package comprises 19" light alloy Double-spoke style 791 M wheels, Bicolour Jet Black with run-flat tyres, Adaptive M Suspension, Sun Protection Glass, M Seat Belts, Extended High-gloss Shadowline exterior trim and M Rear Spoiler.

... or is that something different? Not going to even try to pretend I understand BMW's packages fully.

The brochure states the following as standard fit on an M Sport:
SAFETY & TECHNOLOGY

• M Sport braking system (exclusively for 330i / 330d /330d xDrive)
• M Sport suspension
• Variable Sport Steering
• Larger fuel tank, total of 59 litres
• Vehicle key with M-specific designation

... however not sure whether to believe anything in the brochure - as that suggests the rear brake lights are "dynamic" from SE upwards, but apparently thats not the case.

[jedpause]

Originally Posted by willougs

Doesnt the M Sport Pro package come with M Sport Suspension?

The M Sport Pro package comprises ..., Adaptive M Suspension, ....

... or is that something different? Not going to even try to pretend I understand BMW's packages fully.

The brochure states the following as standard fit on an M Sport:
SAFETY & TECHNOLOGY

• M Sport braking system (exclusively for 330i / 330d /330d xDrive)
• M Sport suspension
• Variable Sport Steering
• Larger fuel tank, total of 59 litres
• Vehicle key with M-specific designation

... however not sure whether to believe anything in the brochure - as that suggests the rear brake lights are "dynamic" from SE upwards, but apparently thats not the case.

Having had 2 M Sports in the past (F10/G30) I can share my experience which I think is still valid for the 330e and other G20's

M Sport Vanilla version gets you M Sport suspension which is passive and harder than non-M Sport
M Sport Pro Give you Adaptive Suspension (Active and Variable depending on conditions of each wheel)

I deleted M Sport Suspension (passive) off my F10 as I prefer a softer ride... I could tell the difference compared to the test car

And I added Variable/Adaptive Suspension to my G30 M Sport, and it is great

So you are right, the "Pro" Package adds Adaptive Suspension to the G20 (I have added it to mine)

M Sport Vanilla suspension also denoted lowered suspension normally, I think on the G20 too... if you have the Adaptive Suspension it is not lowered

And last tip if you have "Pro" you don't have to delete M Sport passive suspension, it is effectively replaced by the Adaptive setup

My 10c worth

[Jim_330e]

M Sport Vanilla version gets you M Sport suspension which is passive and harder than non-M Sport

Not true for the 330e though. Which is what this thread refers to.

[jedpause]

Originally Posted by Jim_330e

M Sport Vanilla version gets you M Sport suspension which is passive and harder than non-M Sport

Not true for the 330e though. Which is what this thread refers to.

Then I stand corrected... I opted for the Pro pack, and notice the brochure even say M Sport Suspension is standard equipment on M Sport Models...

https://g20.bimmerpost.com/forums/al...ictureid=78982

[xenon]

Look on p37 of the same brochure where the specifications are detailed. The e models do not have M-Sport suspension.

[willougs]

Originally Posted by xenon

Look on p37 of the same brochure where the specifications are detailed. The e models do not have M-Sport suspension.

Don't make it easy do they.
So, the 330e M Sport comes with standard suspension? (more comfort but higher ride height than M Sport Suspension)
And the M Sport Pro package upgrades that to Adaptive M suspension?

[xenon]

That’s correct.

[eddiehaug]

I had the G20 330e Sedan and now I have the G21 330e, and the info in the pictures explain how the M-suspension is set for this car.

In both cars I've had the Adaptive M suspension with 18's and the ride is good in comfort mode. In the G21 is like 30% softer in comfort mode than in the G20 though, much nicer if you ask me. You can always make the suspension stiffer by switching to Sport anyway.

[willougs]

Originally Posted by eddiehaug

I had the G20 330e Sedan and now I have the G21 330e, and the info in the pictures explain how the M-suspension is set for this car.

In both cars I've had the Adaptive M suspension with 18's and the ride is good in comfort mode. In the G21 is like 30% softer in comfort mode than in the G20 though, much nicer if you ask me. You can always make the suspension stiffer by switching to Sport anyway.

Thanks. As a matter of interest where abouts is that information in the images from? Very useful.

[xenon]

From the brochure - you can download from website as a pdf.

[eddiehaug]

Originally Posted by xenon

From the brochure - you can download from website as a pdf.

Yes, exactly. Here you have them without needing to fill out a form to get the download link:

Sedan: https://www.bmw.no/content/dam/bmw/m...4324806844.pdf

Touring: https://www.bmw.no/content/dam/bmw/m...4328076271.pdf

[willougs]

Originally Posted by xenon

From the brochure - you can download from website as a pdf.

Ah ok, the brochure I have is dated Nov20 downloaded from BMW UK site. The one that I can see that information in seems to reference models not available here.

Combine the two and its a pretty useful resource. Thanks

[Jasperistops]

Jus looked through the brochure and a bit off topic but what is "comfort opening and closing" on the sunroof

[xenon]

Closing by holding lock button on key fob, same as with windows (and powered tailgate on G21)