[beamlord]

Originally Posted by BimmerFix

Lmao too soon !

And to answer OP’s question, it’s RWD Comp for me. And yes I will feel the extra 150lbs She’s a heavy girl as is , if I can save a bit of money + a decent amount of weight .. why not

Live in L.A , don’t care about 0-60 or red light shenanigans. But it really depends on your wants & needs , along with where you live.

Not much of a track rat but I regularly hit up Angeles Crest. Started going with sport bikes at a young age & now just hoon it in my M cars.

That's exactly the point though. It's a heavy car anyway, the extra few pounds are not making the cut of it being a better track car or not.
Ironically, the heavier (x-drive) car is faster in all situations anyway, including the track, so..that's also a moot point.

OP made the right choice already

[beamlord]

Originally Posted by Humdizzle

obviously you want x-drive so you don't hydroplane when you're doing 90 on the freeway.

Wait, the purists prefer to proudly hydroplane.

[vj123]

Originally Posted by Humdizzle

obviously you want x-drive so you don't hydroplane when you're doing 90 on the freeway.

My friend’s sister’s cousin’s neighbor, who works for the M division said i can!

[Ilyam5]

Originally Posted by Humdizzle

obviously you want x-drive so you don't hydroplane when you're doing 90 on the freeway.

What happened to that thread? It was a fun read

[gs1403]

Originally Posted by BimmerFix

Lmao too soon !

And to answer OP’s question, it’s RWD Comp for me. And yes I will feel the extra 150lbs She’s a heavy girl as is , if I can save a bit of money + a decent amount of weight .. why not

Live in L.A , don’t care about 0-60 or red light shenanigans. But it really depends on your wants & needs , along with where you live.

Not much of a track rat but I regularly hit up Angeles Crest. Started going with sport bikes at a young age & now just hoon it in my M cars.

I'm of the same mindset as you. The first time ever I drove a G82 was a Turo rental in LA - a RWD M4 Comp, which I took straight to the Crest and the Malibu canyons thereafter. Spending a couple days with the car in SoCal convinced me I wanted the G82 no other way. Relative to my F82, the G82 even in RWD configuration, is so good at putting down the power without the drama and making you feel in control, while still letting you have fun and kick the rear end loose when wanted. At the end of the day, personally just didn't feel the need nor desire to pay $5k more to have the x-Drive.

[BimmerFix]

Originally Posted by beamlord

That's exactly the point though. It's a heavy car anyway, the extra few pounds are not making the cut of it being a better track car or not.
Ironically, the heavier (x-drive) car is faster in all situations anyway, including the track, so..that's also a moot point.

OP made the right choice already

It’s not a few extra pounds .. what may be insignifcant to you , matters to me.

And I’m aware xdrive is faster at the track , hence my comment “I’m no track rat”

There is no right or wrong choice here , seems to me just a bunch of folks looking for validation.

[beamlord]

Originally Posted by BimmerFix

It’s not a few extra pounds .. what may be insignifcant to you , matters to me.

And I’m aware xdrive is faster at the track , hence my comment “I’m no track rat”

There is no right or wrong choice here , seems to me just a bunch of folks looking for validation.

Pretty much nailed it, except it's the RWD folks so far. And I don't understand why you need to go out of your way and validate that. Those who bought the initial RWD have the only valid reason, everything else is just self-justification.

I don't see AWD folks needing to validate anything, we have the full package and super content with it.

May I ask, if you're no track rat, but somehow weight matters to you, how exactly does it do so? Fuel economy?

[BEAR-AvHistory]

To me the keys were at 500+BHP you need all 4 wheels for traction. You can always kill the rear biased AWD system at the push of a button if you want to play RWD slip & slide.

The only other real difference is you have porky AWD & less porky RWD, but the porky AWD will out run the lighter RWD - A wash?

What's not to like?

[jummo]

The only two reasons to skip XDrive that make sense to me are,
a manual transmission or less money.
While I would have greatly preferred the stick, this car wouldn't work as my daily without XDrive.
I will also admit, I think it makes the car a little more accessible, given its capabilities.

[beamlord]

Originally Posted by BEAR-AvHistory

To me the keys were at 500+BHP you need all 4 wheels for traction. You can always kill the rear biased AWD system at the push of a button if you want to play RWD slip & slide.

The only other real difference is you have porky AWD & less porky RWD, but the porky AWD will out run the lighter RWD - A wash?

What's not to like?

Exactly.

[KevinGS]

XDrive is a no-brainer, especially when matched with the 10-stage Traction Control option (using this when you turn RWD on).

And this is from someone who has RWD, and loves it.

So unless you need to save money, just get AWD...best of all worlds. The 150 pound savings is not inconsequential on the track, but not enough to make RWD faster than AWD, mostly because of AWD's ability to get on the gas harder and earlier in turns. BMW's AWD traction system is quite impressive. And AWD is more stable in inclement weather (though my RWD is just fine in wet conditions with the TC on, no hint of instability even in turns. The chassis just works its magic).

Ultimately, the general traction of the G8X chassis is impressive, because even in RWD, I can get on the gas early with confidence while in a turn.

But AWD instills that much more confidence, where you can damn near just mash the throttle in the middle of a turn, and the chassis just sorts it out and keeps you on your intended arc. It's brilliant. I've driven a G80 AWD on the track, and compared it to my RWD on the track...and the difference is noticeable in turns and sweeps, in regard to pure confidence, grip and stability (and on the track, all of this matters). And in both cases, Traction Control was off.

AWD makes a hero out of amateur drivers, which is the point.

[skyline408]

I honestly wish they made an X-drive with the 6MT. They can keep the same 400 ft/lbs torque as well.

[CSH1959]

Originally Posted by KevinGS

XDrive is a no-brainer, especially when matched with the 10-stage Traction Control option (using this when you turn RWD on).

And this is from someone who has RWD, and loves it.

So unless you need to save money, just get AWD...best of all worlds. The 150 pound savings is not inconsequential on the track, but not enough to make RWD faster than AWD, mostly because of AWD's ability to get on the gas harder and earlier in turns. BMW's AWD traction system is quite impressive. And AWD is more stable in inclement weather (though my RWD is just fine in wet conditions with the TC on, no hint of instability even in turns. The chassis just works its magic).

Ultimately, the general traction of the G8X chassis is impressive, because even in RWD, I can get on the gas early with confidence while in a turn.

But AWD instills that much more confidence, where you can damn near just mash the throttle in the middle of a turn, and the chassis just sorts it out and keeps you on your intended arc. It's brilliant. I've driven a G80 AWD on the track, and compared it to my RWD on the track...and the difference is noticeable in turns and sweeps, in regard to pure confidence, grip and stability (and on the track, all of this matters). And in both cases, Traction Control was off.

AWD makes a hero out of amateur drivers, which is the point.

Awesome! Thanks

[wavyyyy]

Originally Posted by skyline408

I honestly wish they made an X-drive with the 6MT. They can keep the same 400 ft/lbs torque as well.

One can dream

[dreamworks]

Originally Posted by skyline408

I honestly wish they made an X-drive with the 6MT. They can keep the same 400 ft/lbs torque as well.

I would gladly pay more than what BMW is asking for a comp x drive (even with the less power and torque) for this very special spec. Outside of the C4S and Golf R, where can one get a 6MT and AWD.

[KevinGS]

Originally Posted by dreamworks

I would gladly pay more than what BMW is asking for a comp x drive (even with the less power and torque) for this very special spec. Outside of the C4S and Golf R, where can one get a 6MT and AWD.

Dream, your dream may come true. I wouldn't be surprised if BMW offers a manual AWD version at the end of the G8X's run, as a swan song to the ICE M3 generation.

So, keep your fingers and toes crossed.

[frank70]

I have been driving a RWD M3 competition for 2 years now and the thing has a lot of traction. So AWD is totally unneeded. In the dry at least. When it is wet AWD - for me - is also totally unneeded because i have all safety systems on in the wet and still have no traction problems with my RWD because of it. So do you need a AWD : absolutely not.

Regarding the weight difference between AWD and RWD : many here say you will not notice it on a already heavy car, and they likely have a point. And still it is 100 lbs / 50 KG. Things like carbon brakes and seats are marketed heavily with weight losses of 10 to 20 kg as an argument to order it. Then there are CS and CSL versions where a lot of effort is spend to get something like 70 - 100 kg out, and then suddenly these weight reductions are marketed again as something quite significant. So let us not completely nullify the weight difference between AWD / RWD.....

Would i buy a RWD or AWD if i were ordering again ? It depends a bit on the price premium i guess. For 2000 USD difference i would surely order the AWD. For 5000 USD or so i would prefer to spend the amount on something like the carbon exterior package.

So concluding : RWD is great as is AWD. I would likely order a AWD now if i would order at this moment, but rationally i can not really tell which problem i have with my RWD that would be solved by ordering a AWD and why i should spend extra for that. But then again a M3 is not a rational purchase i guess....

[CSH1959]

Originally Posted by frank70

I have been driving a RWD M3 competition for 2 years now and the thing has a lot of traction. So AWD is totally unneeded. In the dry at least. When it is wet AWD - for me - is also totally unneeded because i have all safety systems on in the wet and still have no traction problems with my RWD because of it. So do you need a AWD : absolutely not.

Regarding the weight difference between AWD and RWD : many here say you will not notice it on a already heavy car, and they likely have a point. And still it is 100 lbs / 50 KG. Things like carbon brakes and seats are marketed heavily with weight losses of 10 to 20 kg as an argument to order it. Then there are CS and CSL versions where a lot of effort is spend to get something like 70 - 100 kg out, and then suddenly these weight reductions are marketed again as something quite significant. So let us not completely nullify the weight difference between AWD / RWD.....

Would i buy a RWD or AWD if i were ordering again ? It depends a bit on the price premium i guess. For 2000 USD difference i would surely order the AWD. For 5000 USD or so i would prefer to spend the amount on something like the carbon exterior package.

So concluding : RWD is great as is AWD. I would likely order a AWD now if i would order at this moment, but rationally i can not really tell which problem i have with my RWD that would be solved by ordering a AWD and why i should spend extra for that. But then again a M3 is not a rational purchase i guess....

A lot of the reasons I went back and forth with my decision. Ultimately, I just decided to go with it.

Thanks for responding

[DO444]

Originally Posted by CSH1959

A lot of the reasons I went back and forth with my decision. Ultimately, I just decided to go with it.

Thanks for responding

You did the right thing.
Congrats.