[sahajesh]

As the old saying goes, pics (non-camo) or it literally did not happen.

[DeeKay]

Originally Posted by michal12

So what happened? It is Monday but not a word anywhere on G20..

Waiting impatiently as well!

[montegoblue_e92]

The F90 Competition first drives are coming out now, so I'm thinking we'll see the G20 reviews today as well. I'm going to be here refreshing this thread all day!

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...t-drive-review

[dopefishz]

Originally Posted by antzcrashing

If I am reading page 1 correctly, there is no plan for a manual transmission for non-n M3 3 series in usa. Very depressing. Audi a4 doesnt have it, and bmw follows audi again. Bmw thumbs its nose at enthusiasts and tells them to buy the much higher priced M3 if you want manual. Not cool. I dont get it bc there were plenty of takers for manual on f30

I wouldn't mind to pay more for an M3.

But I live in northern Canada, can't get around here in a RWD car. Not happening. Even with studded tires.

[ReeferCheefer]

Thanks Bmw For Returning Nav Screen To Correct Location!

[clbmw]

I guess Spider-Man was incredibly excited when he spotted the new 3 series just before Scott did

[JRobUSC]

Originally Posted by ReeferCheefer

Thanks Bmw For Returning Nav Screen To Correct Location!

I'm curious where you think the nav screen is going to be?

[Squeak825]

Originally Posted by MightyMouseTech

• 48V electrical system

Uh, is this true? It would be absolutely huge if this is the case!!!

Why is this such a big deal?

[teaston]

Originally Posted by Squeak825

Why is this such a big deal?

15 to 20 percent better fuel economy, extra torque, near instant stop start re-starts to name a few benefits.

Basically it’s 2/3 as good as a full hybrid but at 1/3 the price.

[Germanauto]

I suspect it will be one of those evening uploads the car sites sometimes do. 8-9 pm EST maybe?

[stein_325i]

Originally Posted by Vucko

no, its not kidney brow (not 3er e90 style), look at 2series AT and GT and also at lets say x1, they all have that, its not that visible from far but is visible with some close up looks

EDIT: photos added... on both you can see that, just x1 is mpre accurate comparing to 3er g20

I know, I'm just joking, kidney brows will never come back (nor should they). It seems that the X7 has similar camo wrap at the top of the kidneys like the G20 prototypes and they released some photos from the production line. It seems that the reason is because the top of the kidney grilles block off the intake/don't allow air to pass through (the flat surface at the top of the grille), but I doubt it will be noticeable

[stein_325i]

Originally Posted by Squeak825

Why is this such a big deal?

I'm not completely sure if my points are correct, but I believe these are the biggest reasons. It helps with very low end torque/turbo lag, and provides a solution to annoying stop start systems (especially as BMW is continuing to make them stay on unless coded out), allowing the car to use the 48V system as a starter and allow it to come off of a stop more gracefully than current start stop systems.

[praxis218]

Originally Posted by Squeak825

Why is this such a big deal?

https://www.motorauthority.com/news/...nate-turbo-lag

[hans007]

Originally Posted by joshuastein55

I'm not completely sure if my points are correct, but I believe these are the biggest reasons. It helps with very low end torque/turbo lag, and provides a solution to annoying stop start systems (especially as BMW is continuing to make them stay on unless coded out), allowing the car to use the 48V system as a starter and allow it to come off of a stop more gracefully than current start stop systems.

Mercedes uses a 48V electric turbo in the new inline 6 as well.

Basically the electric turbo can spool up without using exhaust gasses using only stored electrical power so you don't have as much lag I think is the idea.

Also it is amazing to me the priorities of magazines.

we have like 20 M5 competition reviews.... a car a tiny number of people can even afford that is just barely different from a normal M5, but the G20 3 series a car that I'd imagine tons of people would want more about.... the reviews have to wait until after they are done with rehashed "its an M5 but a little more expensive" reviews.

[teaston]

Originally Posted by hans007

Mercedes uses a 48V electric turbo in the new inline 6 as well.

Basically the electric turbo can spool up without using exhaust gasses using only stored electrical power so you don't have as much lag I think is the idea.

Also it is amazing to me the priorities of magazines.

we have like 20 M5 competition reviews.... a car a tiny number of people can even afford that is just barely different from a normal M5, but the G20 3 series a car that I'd imagine tons of people would want more about.... the reviews have to wait until after they are done with rehashed "its an M5 but a little more expensive" reviews.

Sunday was the embargo, so maybe they’re waiting to put the G20 reviews in the next magazine publication, which for UK Autocar & Auto Express is tomorrow (Tuesday), so they sell a load of mags!

[nozydog]

Originally Posted by teaston

Sunday was the embargo, so maybe they’re waiting to put the G20 reviews in the next magazine publication, which for UK Autocar & Auto Express is tomorrow (Tuesday), so they sell a load of mags!

Let's hope it's not just a 320d they're testing!!

[nozydog]

Originally Posted by SoCali E36

The little kink at the bottom of the headlight is really bugging me. Why would they do that?

A 'modern' interpretation of the e46 maybe?

[MightyMouseTech]

Originally Posted by Squeak825

Why is this such a big deal?

Every car on the road uses a 12V battery and system (except for some big trucks). How often have you heard of 46V batteries and battery chargers? Good luck finding one. No more running accessories off of any part of wiring in the car. There will have to be a separate system for 12v outlets.

You can also be electrocuted by 46V systems. No more handling bare wires with your hands. Will require protection at all times when doing wiring repairs or even testing.

[teaston]

Originally Posted by MightyMouseTech

Every car on the road uses a 12V battery and system (except for some big trucks). How often have you heard of 46V batteries and battery chargers? Good luck finding one. No more running accessories off of any part of wiring in the car. There will have to be a separate system for 12v outlets.

You can also be electrocuted by 46V systems. No more handling bare wires with your hands. Will require protection at all times when doing wiring repairs or even testing.

The 48v system isn't instead of the 12v system, it is in addition to it!

[doccyber]

Originally Posted by nozydog

A 'modern' interpretation of the e46 maybe?

I wish the whole thing was about re interpretation of the e46

[sahajesh]

Originally Posted by teaston

The 48v system isn't instead of the 12v system, it is in addition to it!

Think MightyMouseTech should stick to cleaning the balls from 80s mice than commenting on battery technology

[nozydog]

Originally Posted by doccyber

I wish the whole thing was about re interpretation of the e46

Well, apparently....!!

But seriously we have to hope!!