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      05-11-2020, 05:43 AM   #1
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Autocar - M4 Gran Coupe and i4 to lead sportier 4 Series lineup

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Not sure how much of what Autocar reports below is known but it made for interesting reading / a recap of the upcoming 4er and M4 variants:

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/n...-sportier-line
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Wow! A confirmed GC M4?
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Wow! A confirmed GC M4?
According to Autocar ...
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According to Autocar ...
That would be a surprising turn of events since BMW hasn't mentioned a GC variant.
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Unlike other Autocar preview articles, this one seems to be largely spared from botched facts and outright lies. A couple things are worth commenting on:

- There is no evidence of an M4 GC yet. That does not mean it won't come, but for now this claim should be treated as complete speculation.

- I'm sure its just a typo, but the current M inline six is the S58, not the S52.

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Wow! A confirmed GC M4?
Autocar is notorious for getting facts wrong or lying on purpose to increase hits.

Although the rest of the article looks correct (aside from writing "S52" when the author obviously means "S58"), I would treat this claim with skepticism. An M4 GC might make sense, but another possible strategy is to allow the i4 BEV to stand alone as the halo GC model. Also, no evidence of an M4 GC exists yet, whereas the i4 and 4 GC have been testing for well over a year.
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Autocar is notorious for getting facts wrong or lying on purpose to increase hits.

Although the rest of the article looks correct (aside from writing "S52" when the author obviously means "S58"), I would treat this claim with skepticism. An M4 GC might make sense, but another possible strategy is to allow the i4 BEV to stand alone as the halo GC model. Also, no evidence of an M4 GC exists yet, whereas the i4 and 4 GC have been testing for well over a year.
Autocar's "render" deliberately omits the horizontal slats from the leaked grille pics.....
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interesting if it happens. I wouldn't mind it and would consider it depending on looks of course.
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Unlike other Autocar preview articles, this one seems to be largely spared from botched facts and outright lies. A couple things are worth commenting on:

- There is no evidence of an M4 GC yet. That does not mean it won't come, but for now this claim should be treated as complete speculation.

- I'm sure its just a typo, but the current M inline six is the S58, not the S52.
While this article is clickbait nonsense... If I recall correctly (and i may be wrong here) SCOTT26 has alluded to the idea that there may be an M4 gran coupe in planning and it was deemed a miss in the prior gen.
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Not based on this article, but honestly wouldn't surprise me
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I would definitely get a Gran Coupe. I need the extra doors since I have a toddler, but I like the looks of the M4 more. This car would be perfect for me and for many others in the same demographic.

Fingers crossed!
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Am I missing something?

M4 GC ~= M3

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Pretty soon, it might be harder to see a non-M car on the street than an M!
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M4GC will be so close to an M5 ! I expect the G8X M cars to be bigger anyways ..
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It would be equivalent to an RS5 Coupe and Sportback... both very successful variants... nothing inherently wrong... the only issue is that there is always a weight penalty, the RS5 Sportback and any Sportback variant is always heavier than the coupe / sedan... but then again we already have Convertible M4s so...
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Why not? Audi has the RS5 Sportback and they even sell here in the U.S. Only thing is that an AWD M4 Gran Coupe would surely weigh almost as much as an F90 M5. And BMW has been pretty much as bad as Audi in not offering lightweight cars anymore. So whatever.
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Pretty soon, it might be harder to see a non-M car on the street than an M!
Everyone can afford an M-Car?

Perhaps in the 2nd hand market, but that's a ways off
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While this article is clickbait nonsense... If I recall correctly (and i may be wrong here) SCOTT26 has alluded to the idea that there may be an M4 gran coupe in planning and it was deemed a miss in the prior gen.
I believe he has mentioned it, yes. And that's great, but he mentions a lot of things in passing that don't come to be. So, until we have some corroborating evidence, we'll treat his comments as speculative.

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Am I missing something?

M4 GC ~= M3

???
Yep. You are missing the fact that:

430i GC ~= 330i
M440i GC ~= M340i

And yet all those models still exist.

So then, an M4 GC and M3 could also coexist. However, as I mentioned in my first post, this should be treated as wild rumor until we hear of evidence from known-to-be-reliable inside sources or see mules.

With the dual motor ~520hp i4 coming as a flagship for the G26 lineup, it's not clear that an M4 GC would be in BMW's best interests.
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I know this is being discussed at BMW but hard to see adding a third model which would give BMW 3 models which would be essentially the same (M3, M4, M4 Gran Coupe). A decently equipped M4 can reach close to $100k CAD, I would hate to see how much of a premium a M4 Gran Coupe would add to that.

I know Audi has the RS5 Sportback and that would be a reason why BMW would even consider a M4 Gran Coupe, but Audi doesn't have a RS4 which the Sportback is supposed to cover.
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