05-24-2019, 09:50 AM | #375 |
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No MT for G80 is just sad 😞
I have a BMW corporate friend and he sort of mentioned casually that there won't be a manual option for G80. I thought he was just kidding and now that I see this update, I'm beginning to believe it. No MT means I'll be keeping my current F80 MT. |
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4,500 Manuals total Or less than a 1,000 a year average. For a Company that sells roughly 2,000,000 cars a year. Peanuts. Less than 1,000 cars a year isn't even noticed on the financial books. In fact, the added platform parts cost savings probably make it a wash. Likewise, you have made an assumption not based in facts that BMW will lose all 4,500 MT buyers to another brand. |
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05-25-2019, 10:45 AM | #378 |
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As it relates to the F80 M3, a 30% take rate is very promising, as someone who is in business, if I have that many customers wanting a certain feature I do what I can to accommodate. Enthusiasts during the F80 platform spoke with their wallets, wanting 6MT.
Many reports in the past stated that a 20% take rate was all that was needed to offer a manual in certain markets. We see that number has been exceeded despite dealers almost always ordering an automatic, and rarely if ever having a manual on the lot for people to experience the wholistic joy that comes with rowing your own gears. Viva la manual! |
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05-25-2019, 01:44 PM | #379 | |
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Want a car for track and looks like M2 CS is the beat option right now if I can get one.
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I owned every M3 MT and moved to F90 M5. I loved the M5 specially after modifying it and got about 850HP The car is wicked fast but something was missing???? MT and I can't live without it MT is just something that is so much fun and enjoyable to drive. MT
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Manual is IMO the option that changes the experience of a specific car the most, it is also the option M3 buyers who prefer this option are the most passionate about and takers are a sizable percent. I doubt it’s gone for good, it’s likely just a delayed a year or two.
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Personally, I don't care if they've cancelled the MT.
I own a really, really wonderful M140i with the ZF auto GB as here in Italy my beloved MT wasn't available, even as special order. At the beginning it has been really difficult to understand and to appreciate the new AutoBox, but now, I realy love it (even if I've also another manual car in the garage). In my opinion, the G80 claims for a ZF gearbox, the manual is wonderful on different cars, more driver and fun focused. |
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05-27-2019, 02:32 PM | #388 |
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Part of my personal definition of a fun car is that you have to shift it for yourself and use a clutch. To each his own, but I won't buy a M car if it doesn't have a stick. If the no stick rumor turns out to be true, I guess the E46 M3 in my garage will appreciate in value even faster than it already has over the past year.
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Going forward, tech and aesthetics will be of very little importance, showing an enthusiast group that driver involvement is important, will dictate my buying decisions. The last manual standing will be parked in my garage. |
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Then you can buy American or Porsche only?
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I'm assuming the AWD will still be AWD/RWD like the m5... still reallllly want that manual. My 6MT f80 was way more fun on street and track than my Dct F80... even tho the 6MT felt/was slower until I tuned it to even the playing field...
6MT so much fun. Wonder if the new C8 Vette will have a manual option? Yes BMW, that was a threat
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It seems that the downmarket 6MT Pure model from the original post is being cancelled and launch models of the M3 will be AT only.
However, BMW could revisit the 6MT for an undeniably upmarket CS down the road. I say this based on the last paragraph in the evo article from this post: https://g20.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1592758 Quote:
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