[xlover]

Originally Posted by Ilyam5

It is obviously available now. Here is one at the local dealer. It is also the only way to get m adaptive suspension
https://www.herbchambersbmw.com/new/...0bcad39ef1.htm

Plugged that vin into a vin decoder and damn it's true, track pack now available with xdrive.....

This is relatively big news for those shopping for the 330 xdrive and want the full msport treatment

[Mii]

Originally Posted by hans007

checked out a car today that had the spare tire option. Wow it really really makes the trunk seem much smaller. It looks like that tire takes up 5" of the bottom of the entire trunk

Does it come with storage tray like G30? The entire space saver spare enclosure should be removable to allow reclaiming the space as needed.

https://g30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...php?p=24195665

[hans007]

Originally Posted by Mii

Does it come with storage tray like G30? The entire space saver spare enclosure should be removable to allow reclaiming the space as needed.

https://g30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...php?p=24195665

Its actually a little bit different than the g30 one. The cover the front edge of it folds up. So if you lift the front edge up there you can get at that little U shape storage cubby without moving everything above the tire away. Other than that it was like the G30 one.

You can remove the whole thing as I tried to lift the whole thing out and then the trunk is normal size again, but theres nothing covering the bottom so I'd guess you have to buy something to cover the bottom of your trunk or get whatever part a non spare tire car has there.

[daveshan]

I was just looking into this issue earlier today -- how much trunk space is lost due to the space saver spare.

I only had access to a 2019 G20 without the spare. What I didn't expect was that "floor" of the trunk didn't lift up. So the trunk may be larger than the version with the spare (which is later removed).

Attached is a photo. You can't see all the way to the front edge, but there are no indents or places to grab and lift.

hans007 (or anyone), do you happen to have any photos of the version with the spare for comparison? Either as is or with spare, etc. removed?

[Mii]

Originally Posted by daveshan

I was just looking into this issue earlier today -- how much trunk space is lost due to the space saver spare.

RealOEM diagrams for reference. Based on the diagrams, part of the space-saver spare should be below the trunk floor and a few inches above the trunk floor with space-saver spare and storage tray.

[hans007]

Originally Posted by Mii

RealOEM diagrams for reference. Based on the diagrams, part of the space-saver spare should be below the trunk floor and a few inches above the trunk floor with space-saver spare and storage tray.

[IMG]http://www.realoem.com/bmw/images/diag_anl7.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://www.realoem.com/bmw/images/diag_anl9.jpg[/IMG]

Originally Posted by Mii

RealOEM diagrams for reference. Based on the diagrams, part of the space-saver spare should be below the trunk floor and a few inches above the trunk floor with space-saver spare and storage tray.

[IMG]http://www.realoem.com/bmw/images/diag_anl7.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://www.realoem.com/bmw/images/diag_anl9.jpg[/IMG]

trunk with spare. estimating it based on my cellphones height. I'd guess it's about 4.5-4.75" in trunk you lose vs removing the whole thing. it's basically as tall as the nets things on the left and right storage compartments

[daveshan]

Originally Posted by hans007

trunk with spare. estimating it based on my cellphones height. I'd guess it's about 4.5-4.75" in trunk you lose vs removing the whole thing. it's basically as tall as the nets things on the left and right storage compartments

That's super helpful, thanks for posting that, hans007. Now we have photos of both with and without space-saver spare.

So if you removed everything (fold-up piece, two compartments, etc.), are you left with the same thing as if there was never a space-saver in the first place (i.e., my photo two post up)? Or did you say there was no "floor" of the trunk if you did that?

[hans007]

Originally Posted by daveshan

That's super helpful, thanks for posting that, hans007. Now we have photos of both with and without space-saver spare.

So if you removed everything (fold-up piece, two compartments, etc.), are you left with the same thing as if there was never a space-saver in the first place (i.e., my photo two post up)? Or did you say there was no "floor" of the trunk if you did that?

Originally Posted by daveshan

That's super helpful, thanks for posting that, hans007. Now we have photos of both with and without space-saver spare.

So if you removed everything (fold-up piece, two compartments, etc.), are you left with the same thing as if there was never a space-saver in the first place (i.e., my photo two post up)? Or did you say there was no "floor" of the trunk if you did that?

well there wasn't any carpet. there's a floor though. as someone else said probably you could just use the lid of the tire part to cover the floor.

it's not like say there is a hole where things would fall into. there's some exposed metal but if you lifted the wheel out it seemed like it'd be the same amount of space as your picture

[Dallas TX Wes]

Has the 2020 330i pricing/ordering guide been published yet? I'm curious if there will be any change to available standalone options...mainly 4UR (Ambient Lighting) is available as a $250 option with Sensatec. Would be great if the same could be added on the 330i.

[hans007]

bmwusa.com seems to allow ambient lighting without leather now. is that an orderable change?

[shoot2thrill]

Hi all, I'm interested in this car and I'm curious what I should be expecting for a lease near the target price.
How does this build look? I'd like to see a lease price fully loaded before I try to take options off.

42250	330i xdrive
550		475 Black Sapphire Metallic
1700	MAH7 Black Vernasca Leather w/contrast stitch/piping
1700	ZDY driving assistance professional package
5000	ZMP M Sport Package
700		2VF Adaptive M Suspension
2800	ZPP Premium Package
2100	ZPD Executive package
2450	ZTR Track Handling Package
875		688 Harman Kardon surround sound system
500		6NW + 6WD Wireless Charging / WiFi Hotspot
	
60625	MSRP
	
995		Destination & Handling
180		Training fee
	
57556.25	Target price

[BLVCKBURN]

Originally Posted by shoot2thrill

Hi all, I'm interested in this car and I'm curious what I should be expecting for a lease near the target price.
How does this build look? I'd like to see a lease price fully loaded before I try to take options off.

42250	330i xdrive
550		475 Black Sapphire Metallic
1700	MAH7 Black Vernasca Leather w/contrast stitch/piping
1700	ZDY driving assistance professional package
5000	ZMP M Sport Package
700		2VF Adaptive M Suspension
2800	ZPP Premium Package
2100	ZPD Executive package
2450	ZTR Track Handling Package
875		688 Harman Kardon surround sound system
500		6NW + 6WD Wireless Charging / WiFi Hotspot
	
60625	MSRP
	
995		Destination & Handling
180		Training fee
	
57556.25	Target price

How many miles per year and how many months?

Edit: Threw in 12k miles for 36k months, you can change the fees and stuff but start here: leasehackr.com/calculator?make=BMW&msrp=60625&sales_price=57556.2 5&months=36&mf=.00188&dp=0&doc_fee=80&acq_fee=995& taxed_inc=0&untaxed_inc=0&rebate=0&resP=59&reg_fee =400&sales_tax=9&memo=&monthlyTax_radio=true&miles =12000&msd=0

[Pauleebe]

Originally Posted by shoot2thrill

Hi all, I'm interested in this car and I'm curious what I should be expecting for a lease near the target price.
How does this build look? I'd like to see a lease price fully loaded before I try to take options off.

42250	330i xdrive
550		475 Black Sapphire Metallic
1700	MAH7 Black Vernasca Leather w/contrast stitch/piping
1700	ZDY driving assistance professional package
5000	ZMP M Sport Package
700		2VF Adaptive M Suspension
2800	ZPP Premium Package
2100	ZPD Executive package
2450	ZTR Track Handling Package
875		688 Harman Kardon surround sound system
500		6NW + 6WD Wireless Charging / WiFi Hotspot
	
60625	MSRP
	
995		Destination & Handling
180		Training fee
	
57556.25	Target price

I personally wouldn't pay more than 10% off MSRP.

You're in CA? State can dictate the sales tax. Also, how many miles per year?

[shoot2thrill]

Originally Posted by Pauleebe

I personally wouldn't pay more than 10% off MSRP.

You're in CA? State can dictate the sales tax. Also, how many miles per year?

10% seems pretty brutal. It might be hard for me to find a dealer that would sell for that much of a discount unless you know of some.
Yes I'm in CA and I'd probably go with the 12k/yr lease.
If the lease rates are garbage I may just buy the car.

[Pauleebe]

Originally Posted by shoot2thrill

10% seems pretty brutal. It might be hard for me to find a dealer that would sell for that much of a discount unless you know of some.
Yes I'm in CA and I'd probably go with the 12k/yr lease.
If the lease rates are garbage I may just buy the car.

If you are looking to buy/lease now, then yes, you probably won't get 10% off (though, apparently some have had this luck). Perhaps waiting a few months will give you more favorable results.

Assuming your MSRP and target sell price, and incorporating the potential 2K loyalty incentive (confirm if you qualify and if it's actually 2K in CA, since it can vary by state), and that the sales tax in CA is 10% (looks like it can range from 7.5-10% depending on your zip code), I'm seeing the below:

https://leasehackr.com/calculator?ma...es=12000&msd=0

[BLVCKBURN]

Originally Posted by Pauleebe

If you are looking to buy/lease now, then yes, you probably won't get 10% off (though, apparently some have had this luck). Perhaps waiting a few months will give you more favorable results.

Assuming your MSRP and target sell price, and incorporating the potential 2K loyalty incentive (confirm if you qualify and if it's actually 2K in CA, since it can vary by state), and that the sales tax in CA is 10% (looks like it can range from 7.5-10% depending on your zip code), I'm seeing the below:

https://leasehackr.com/calculator?ma...es=12000&msd=0

Right now I'm seeing about to 4-5% off the 330i at most dealers in my area. Can't wait to see what it'll be like at the end of the year when my lease is up.

[Pauleebe]

Originally Posted by FknLeon

Right now I'm seeing about to 4-5% off the 330i at most dealers in my area. Can't wait to see what it'll be like at the end of the year when my lease is up.

I wouldn't expect dealers to advertise their best price (or as low as they can go). I know discounts have been had at or above 10% off MSRP on prior 3 series generations, but you are correct in thinking that likely will be later on.

[BLVCKBURN]

Originally Posted by Pauleebe

I wouldn't expect dealers to advertise their best price (or as low as they can go). I know discounts have been had at or above 10% off MSRP on prior 3 series generations, but you are correct in thinking that likely will be later on.

Yeah as of right now the discounts I'm seeing are only from TrueCar.

[havenyoung]

Originally Posted by FknLeon

Yeah as of right now the discounts I'm seeing are only from TrueCar.

Costco Auto program shows an invoice of roughly 6% off.
Not sure how accurate that'd be.

[Pauleebe]

Originally Posted by havenyoung

Costco Auto program shows an invoice of roughly 6% off.
Not sure how accurate that'd be.

You're saying invoice is 94% of MSRP?

[havenyoung]

Originally Posted by Pauleebe

You're saying invoice is 94% of MSRP?

Well that's the math!
Here is my build.

[BLVCKBURN]

Originally Posted by havenyoung

Costco Auto program shows an invoice of roughly 6% off.
Not sure how accurate that'd be.

Sadly that doesn't matter to me, no dealers around here recognize that.