Michelin Pilot Sport 4 (PS4) vs Pilot Super Sport

ballisma · 07-08-2019, 03:36 PM

I've been going on about repalcing my RFTs for a while now, sorry 😕

Decison time:
I have a choice between the Michelin PS4s and Pilot super sports both on 19's
1. Whats the difference?
2. Which is newer?
3. Which will be more comfortable on passive m sport suspension?

Or should I just stick to pirelli go flats?
Super sports are coming up a tad more expensive than the PS4s for some reason

remmib · 07-08-2019, 06:26 PM

PS4S - newest and best.

VMRWheels · 07-08-2019, 07:21 PM

The PS4S is the replacement for the PSS, so I'd recommend going with PS4S. The PSS can still be had due to the fact that Michelin supplies them as OE tires for certain automobile manufacturers. After their contractual obligations to manufacture those sizes for the OE's expire, they should move to PS4S. That means if you choose the PSS and need a replacement down the line, you might be in a tough spot.

I could be totally wrong, but this is what I've learned through my own research.

ballisma · 07-08-2019, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VMRWheels

The PS4S is the replacement for the PSS, so I'd recommend going with PS4S. The PSS can still be had due to the fact that Michelin supplies them as OE tires for certain automobile manufacturers. After their contractual obligations to manufacture those sizes for the OE's expire, they should move to PS4S. That means if you choose the PSS and need a replacement down the line, you might be in a tough spot.

I could be totally wrong, but this is what I've learned through my own research.

Good shout on replacement down the line

ballisma · 07-08-2019, 07:26 PM

Some reviewers were focusing on the nylon and kevlar components of the new structure which makes the tires less bendy when cornering
Has anyone found this affecting the side walls and therefore comfort?

Brett240 · 07-11-2019, 03:27 AM

i used to run supersports for years. have since switched to the PS4S as they claim better everything. grip, wear, comfort etc.

day to day driving, no i cant tell much of a difference. dont worry about the comfort difference.

the reported handling edge and wear rating is a plus over the old supersport

ballisma · 07-11-2019, 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brett240

i used to run supersports for years. have since switched to the PS4S as they claim better everything. grip, wear, comfort etc.

day to day driving, no i cant tell much of a difference. dont worry about the comfort difference.

the reported handling edge and wear rating is a plus over the old supersport

Thanks Brett240

Dizzy032 · 07-19-2019, 11:17 PM

Are you going to stick with the same tire size?

zapdos191 · 07-31-2019, 03:25 AM

PS4S is the newborn PSS and I think PS4S is a tad more comfy than PSS

ballisma · 07-31-2019, 01:59 PM

I don't think so according to this review https://youtu.be/aMv64liOqIE
Either way I'm going to wait for a bit as the dealers scratched my 793 19"alloys and tried to deny it!
Waiting for them to refurb them then I'll change tyres

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Originally Posted by zapdos191

PS4S is the newborn PSS and I think PS4S is a tad more comfy than PSS

Transfer · 08-03-2019, 11:17 AM

I've had numerous sets of PSS and ride PS4S now on my M3. They are a huge upgrade in my mild/wet climate. Noticeable increase in cold weather and wet weather traction and also noticeable improvement in ride comfort and tire noise. PSS was a hard tire in anything less than 70F and terrible less than 50F. So to me they improved everything and broadened the operating temp range substantially.

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ballisma Private First Class 62 Rep 100 Posts Drives: G20 330i Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	Some reviewers were focusing on the nylon and kevlar components of the new structure which makes the tires less bendy when cornering Has anyone found this affecting the side walls and therefore comfort?
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Brett240 Private 40 Rep 74 Posts Drives: G20 330i Join Date: May 2019 Location: Australia iTrader: (0)	i used to run supersports for years. have since switched to the PS4S as they claim better everything. grip, wear, comfort etc. day to day driving, no i cant tell much of a difference. dont worry about the comfort difference. the reported handling edge and wear rating is a plus over the old supersport
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Transfer Major General 5305 Rep 5,875 Posts Drives: Bronco Wildtrak, Tesla MYP Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Issaquah, WA iTrader: (1)	I've had numerous sets of PSS and ride PS4S now on my M3. They are a huge upgrade in my mild/wet climate. Noticeable increase in cold weather and wet weather traction and also noticeable improvement in ride comfort and tire noise. PSS was a hard tire in anything less than 70F and terrible less than 50F. So to me they improved everything and broadened the operating temp range substantially.
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