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      10-21-2019, 09:59 AM   #1
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BMW official: RWD, six cylinder 2 Series Coupe will continue with next gen G42

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Guys, there is still hope left! From a BMW official,

"There will be a successor that will be on a rear-wheel-drive platform, so customers who want and need a new 2 Series coupe will find that in our line-up, as well as those who want a six-cylinder."

The manual is still unconfirmed, but we will still likely have one in the M2 coupe, as officials previously said that lower tier M's (M2/3/4) will have a manual for the future.

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https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/bmw/2-...e-mercedes-cla
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Guys, there is still hope left! From a BMW official,

"There will be a successor that will be on a rear-wheel-drive platform, so customers who want and need a new 2 Series coupe will find that in our line-up, as well as those who want a six-cylinder."
Yes, the G42 2 Series Coupe will arrive in mid 2021 and the G87 M2 is expected in 2023.

As always, I encourage all Bimmerpost readers to follow this thread closely:

https://bimmerpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=901686
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Will it have an s58 and will there be an M2C?
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Will it have an s58 and will there be an M2C?
I would hope so. In the article about M-cars and manual transmissions, the spokesperson said that future M2,M3, and M4's would have manuals, so I'd think the M2 would live on. I can't imagine that its sales are so low in comparison to the M3/4 that they would stop, and the M2 seems to provide the best press for BMW at the moment.
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RWD and 6 cylinder, just what we need! great news indeed.
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Guys, there is still hope left! From a BMW official,

"There will be a successor that will be on a rear-wheel-drive platform, so customers who want and need a new 2 Series coupe will find that in our line-up, as well as those who want a six-cylinder."

The manual is still unconfirmed, but we will still likely have one in the M2 coupe, as officials previously said that lower tier M's (M2/3/4) will have a manual for the future.

Original Article:
https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/bmw/2-...e-mercedes-cla
BMW have said this several times already. Awaiting next article in a couple months saying BMW confirms rwd 2 series, again.
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The 2 is the new 3...
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The 2 is the new 3...
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Thank god.

There is hope left!
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BMW have said this several times already. Awaiting next article in a couple months saying BMW confirms rwd 2 series, again.
They HAVE to keep reposting this, because every time BMW announces a vehicle that isn't a rear wheel drive stick, the collective on here lose their damn minds. These posts are a reminder that BMW still makes those vehicles, and the existence of something different they don't have to buy isn't the end of the world.
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Great news. But I wonder why BMW went with a FWD based (and super generic looking) 2GC. Scott26 has said that both the 4GC and 6GC outsold their coupe variants. A RWD 2GC could have been an awesome modern e46-esque kind of car.
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Great news. But I wonder why BMW went with a FWD based (and super generic looking) 2GC. Scott26 has said that both the 4GC and 6GC outsold their coupe variants. A RWD 2GC could have been an awesome modern e46-esque kind of car.
Because most BMWs sell to the masses who don't know the difference between RWD and FWD, not just us enthusiasts
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Great news. But I wonder why BMW went with a FWD based (and super generic looking) 2GC. Scott26 has said that both the 4GC and 6GC outsold their coupe variants. A RWD 2GC could have been an awesome modern e46-esque kind of car.
Because the competition has moved to FWD platforms, which have some inherent benefits for packaging and cost, both of which are important factors to people considering a low-end sedan from a luxury marque (young professionals starting a family). Coupe buyers are typically less sensitive to those things. Since a 2 series sizes car fits right in between the Mini Cooper UKL platform and 3/5/7 CLR platform, it's possible to split the 2 series between the two platforms without too much effort.

I'd argue that it's actually a pretty smart idea, if a bit unorthodox.
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BMW have said this several times already. Awaiting next article in a couple months saying BMW confirms rwd 2 series, again.
They HAVE to keep reposting this, because every time BMW announces a vehicle that isn't a rear wheel drive stick, the collective on here lose their damn minds. These posts are a reminder that BMW still makes those vehicles, and the existence of something different they don't have to buy isn't the end of the world.
I agree with you though I would add that we lose our minds with good reason.
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As enthusiasts we need to stop asking for more power and better performance.

The increased performance is delegating driver's cars to become auto-only with more going to AWD due to the increased power, so we can get better HP numbers, 0-60, 1/4 mile, Ring times, all the while - Those improved metrics actually make the cars less engaging to drive.

The testing numbers will be great while the engagement will be obsolete. Then buyers turn to older cars that were not as powerful, but were (RWD/6MT delights) that feel more than adequately powered and gave the driver enough involvement to be considered great all around driving experiences.
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If it were ever to happen, the person at BMW who chooses to move the M2 to an FWD platform would need balls bigger than the grille on the new 7 series. They would also have no business sense either.
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Just RWD and manual doesn't help much...the cars need to give some feedback. Too much insulation and there is no road feel, that just kills half of the fun. At least, these lower series cars should be more connected.
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Just RWD and manual doesn't help much...the cars need to give some feedback. Too much insulation and there is no road feel, that just kills half of the fun. At least, these lower series cars should be more connected.
100%. Especially the M2 which doesn't really appeal to the badge whores who prefer M4s and M5s.

Compared to modern BMWs and modern cars in general, the M2's steering is adequate for me.
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Just RWD and manual doesn't help much...the cars need to give some feedback. Too much insulation and there is no road feel, that just kills half of the fun. At least, these lower series cars should be more connected.
100%. Especially the M2 which doesn't really appeal to the badge whores who prefer M4s and M5s.

Compared to modern BMWs and modern cars in general, the M2's steering is adequate for me.
M2 steering is one thing...but it's also well insulated. My friend had M2C...the exhaust feels like it's 2 blocks away....these cars should be more raw....just my opinion
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