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      08-09-2020, 06:08 AM   #1
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I have seen pictures of the M3 and M4 without camouflage

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I have not posted here for a while, but I have some good news and some bad news. I've seen the new M3/M4 without camouflage. I cannot upload the pics, ofc. They have been shown to me in confidence by a close friend who has a high position at BMW in my area.

Yes, I have seen the grill, and as you all know, yes, it's huge. But I have to say the car will be a very IN YOUR FACE type of car. It’s nothing like the M5 where you really have to know what an M car is to see the difference. The back is where they stepped it up. I think it's perfect and also aggressive AF, and with some perf goodies it will be insane.

I'm sure some people will still hate it, and I was one of them, but after seeing it I changed my mind. That being said, I don't know if I would order it in white with black grills like my F82.

I know in videos you cannot hear the sound very good but I don't think this car will sound better than the F80 especially in Europe with the particle filter.

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Is there a honeycomb style grill option? That'd help tune down the weirdness and tune up the aggression in a good way in the meantime.
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Thanks for sharing. What colors were they?
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I personally like the idea of the bigger kidney grill from the jump. My mind haven't change one bit about the appearance of the car as the pictures have slowly but surely been released.

It's nice to know your perspective have change on the car when seeing it in person. Not everything BMW put out is for everybody so it's all good if you're not with it. Sit out this game and wait for the next one.

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      08-09-2020, 10:47 AM   #5
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Hmm maybe they will show it at the M Track Days
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      08-09-2020, 12:29 PM   #6
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Thanks for sharing!

Can you clarify how you changed your mind? It’s not fully clear.

“I'm sure some people will still hate it and I was one of them but after seeing it I changed my mind.”

Does it mean you no longer hate it or that you still do?
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Thanks for sharing!

Can you clarify how you changed your mind? It’s not fully clear.

“I'm sure some people will still hate it and I was one of them but after seeing it I changed my mind.”

Does it mean you no longer hate it or that you still do?
I liked it more after seeing the whole car. Not saying it's perfect etc. But I don't hate it as much. Before I thought that huge grill would be a dealbreaker and I would never buy that car. But now the chances are I'm still getting one.
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Thanks for sharing. What colors were they?
I just saw one color. Silver and it looked awesome. If I order one I would get red with black wheels to match my ftype
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Is there a honeycomb style grill option? That'd help tune down the weirdness and tune up the aggression in a good way in the meantime.
I don't know actually. Good question
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Thanks again, which one do you prefer? From the pictures I strongly prefer the M4 over the M3 this time. Not because the M3 has gone uglier but because the 4 series including the M4 now has its very own coupe identity together with 8 and no longer look anything like a 2 door 3 series.
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Thanks again, which one do you prefer? From the pictures I strongly prefer the M4 over the M3 this time. Not because the M3 has gone uglier but because the 4 series including the M4 now has its very own coupe identity together with 8 and no longer look anything like a 2 door 3 series.
I like both. I went with m4 before but now with 2 kids I think I'll go with 4 doors.
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I just saw one color. Silver and it looked awesome. If I order one I would get red with black wheels to match my ftype 😁
Was it Hockenheim silver or Donington Grey?
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Is there a honeycomb style grill option? That'd help tune down the weirdness and tune up the aggression in a good way in the meantime.
Size and shape aside, personally I like the black bars we’ve seen in the M3 and M4 grills better than the mesh with silver nuggets we’ve seen in the 4er. The bars look more aggressive, the diamond mesh with shiny nuggets, not so much. I would be blacking out the grill of a 4 series.
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This confirms everything I've been saying and all that I've been told / shown... euro connects FTW 😁
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Size and shape aside, personally I like the black bars we’ve seen in the M3 and M4 grills better than the mesh with silver nuggets we’ve seen in the 4er. The bars look more aggressive, the diamond mesh with shiny nuggets, not so much. I would be blacking out the grill of a 4 series.
Th grill looks much nicer than the one in the regular 4 series. Trust me
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Hi! Thanks for the info, any word on pricing?
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Hockenheim Silver as an option, even as semi-individual would be so amazing.
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I know in videos you cannot hear the sound very good but I don't think this car will sound better than the F80 especially in Europe with the particle filter.
Specifically addressing your comments on sound, are you just speculating based on the online videos that are publicly available (YouTube and such) or did your insider address that/give you some kind of audio clip?

I have a B58 with MPPSK which I consider the best sounding iteration of the turbo I6s. I am hoping the M3/M4 S58 is an improvement on that.
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Does the M3 still have those lovely hips?
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I've always said the m3/4 version looks better and more refined than the g22 4 series.
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Are you saying this car sounds worse than the F80?
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Th grill looks much nicer than the one in the regular 4 series. Trust me
In the ‘spy shots’ the grill has those blocky single bars in the grill. I’ve speculated that these have been taped off to look like that and it will actually have a small split (I.e. each bar is actually two elements), a bit like the dual pairs of vertical bars in my M4. Can you confirm?
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