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      11-12-2020, 06:14 AM   #1
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The new volvos are really nice. Think the interiors could still use some work, but they've come a long way from where they were like 10-20 years ago
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So much forbidden fruit in one video, not surprised by the M340i's win either, easily has the best specs and is mostly underrated.

Honestly, that Volvo is the prettiest one there. Such a beautiful wagon, Volvo's new Scandinavian design language is some of the best in the business.
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So much forbidden fruit in one video, not surprised by the M340i's win either, easily has the best specs and is mostly underrated.

Honestly, that Volvo is the prettiest one there. Such a beautiful wagon, Volvo's new Scandinavian design language is some of the best in the business.
I find the Audi prettier.
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I find the Audi prettier.
I thought the pre-refresh was good looking, but not a fan of the post-refresh's styling updates. Losing the strong body-lines and more angular grill and headlights just made it look a bit too puffy/soft for my taste.
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I thought the pre-refresh was good looking, but not a fan of the post-refresh's styling updates. Losing the strong body-lines and more angular grill and headlights just made it look a bit too puffy/soft for my taste.
Completely agree. The Audi is very bland/soft. They don't perform as well as the Mercedes/BMW counterparts, and their infotainment looks dated.

It depends on the model, but for the A4/S4 etc I just feel like I'm driving a more expensive VW. Which, I think, is basically what's happening.
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I thought the pre-refresh was good looking, but not a fan of the post-refresh's styling updates. Losing the strong body-lines and more angular grill and headlights just made it look a bit too puffy/soft for my taste.
Completely agree. The Audi is very bland/soft. They don't perform as well as the Mercedes/BMW counterparts, and their infotainment looks dated.

It depends on the model, but for the A4/S4 etc I just feel like I'm driving a more expensive VW. Which, I think, is basically what's happening.
Agree, I've just never liked Audi's because when I open the hood the engine is too close to me That's one of the reasons I feel like Audi EV's could be great, they have the possibility to eliminate the understeer and front end plow that is synonymous with Audi and finally deliver a more RWD car experience.

The other week I got to see my first ever RS6 and it was beautiful. But watching the owner do donuts was painful, the car was not very happy and understeered plenty.
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It hurts me so much watching this video.I love wagons and there are just no good ones here in NA.I really tried to like the Volvo’s but just couldn’t get over those engines.On paper they seem fine but they just can’t compete with the Germans.

I find it silly that Audi would let us have an RS6 wagon but wouldn’t just give us a A6/S6 avant which is more practical.Well BMW and their corporate view about wagons in NA is nauseating.
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So much forbidden fruit in one video, not surprised by the M340i's win either, easily has the best specs and is mostly underrated.

Honestly, that Volvo is the prettiest one there. Such a beautiful wagon, Volvo's new Scandinavian design language is some of the best in the business.
The Scandinavians are known for their impeccable design philosophy ,from furniture to architecture.
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It hurts me so much watching this video.I love wagons and there are just no good ones here in NA.I really tried to like the Volvo's but just couldn't get over those engines.On paper they seem fine but they just can't compete with the Germans.

I find it silly that Audi would let us have an RS6 wagon but wouldn't just give us a A6/S6 avant which is more practical.Well BMW and their corporate view about wagons in NA is nauseating.
Agree, every wagon here gets screwed over, whether its cladding, much higher starting price (compared to equivalent SUV) or lack of desirable features (AWD in the case of the Volvo, only available on Polestar or cladded version), or simply just discontinued. The E-Class wagon was one of the best and last "regular" wagons available, and even MB cladded it up to make it look like an SUV

The best wagons available are all pretty much north of six figures it seems.
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So much forbidden fruit in one video, not surprised by the M340i's win either, easily has the best specs and is mostly underrated.

Honestly, that Volvo is the prettiest one there. Such a beautiful wagon, Volvo's new Scandinavian design language is some of the best in the business.
I find the Audi prettier.
I really don't like the Audi designs at the moment. That massive grill and over-designed headlights makes the Volvo beautifully simple and elegant. The BMW looks most sporty though
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I just watched 3 station wagons drag race...what has my life become. SMH
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I thought the pre-refresh was good looking, but not a fan of the post-refresh's styling updates. Losing the strong body-lines and more angular grill and headlights just made it look a bit too puffy/soft for my taste.
Completely agree with this. I'm seeing the face lift sedans here now and there is something generic about them. Very forgettable.

If they sold the M340i wagon here I would have one...
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