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Crappy products are made by crappy companies regardless of where they are actually made. Sure, there will be teething problems as manufacturing is moved to Mexico, but it will have very little to do with Mexico and Mexicans. |
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10-05-2018, 05:25 PM | #332 | |
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10-06-2018, 11:02 AM | #334 |
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I've never really subscribed to the concept of not buying a first-year vehicle, but if it's compounded with also being a first-year manufacturing plant it might make some sense here.
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10-06-2018, 11:05 AM | #335 |
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The drivetrain is largely carryover. They will come out with a new drivetrain during the LCI so this way it's never a completely new vehicle and should have less issues.
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10-06-2018, 07:15 PM | #338 |
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10-07-2018, 11:35 AM | #339 |
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From what I saw this weekend, the blue is not too different from Estoril (darker and more reflective): I do like the tail lights though.
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10-09-2018, 12:57 PM | #342 |
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Possibly, but you'd have to compromise on the nav screen and iDrive. At least in Europe the digital gauges are part of the big navi package (Live Cockpit Professional).
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10-09-2018, 03:45 PM | #343 | |
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10-11-2018, 10:05 AM | #345 |
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10-12-2018, 12:50 PM | #346 |
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2019 G20 330 starting MSRP (per forum original post): 40,200
2018 F30 330 starting MSRP: 40,250 I would expect the G20 to have more, and not less, standard equipment and features as compared to the outgoing F30. Therefore, am I reading something wrong, or do we agree the G20 is being very competitively priced compared to the outgoing F30? It's $50 less (not that this is a large amount, but surprised it's less and not more). |
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10-12-2018, 05:28 PM | #347 | |
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10-13-2018, 02:10 AM | #348 |
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I agree. So to clarify, we think the G20 is keeping same (if not better) standard equipment as outgoing F30? If true, and starting at $50 less than F30, I’ll be pretty surprised..
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10-13-2018, 09:01 AM | #349 |
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Adaptive cruise is a convenience feature not a safety feature.
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10-13-2018, 09:02 AM | #350 | |
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I think this will force BMW to really think about pricing. I personally prefer BMW, but a Model 3 vs a 3 series priced similarly is intriguing to a lot of people.
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10-14-2018, 10:43 AM | #351 |
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I actually like it. Different in many ways. The front is new and improved. The rear is less desirable imo. Kinda C class benz look as far as roundness goes.
The interior is much improved and needed it. Just hoping the overall performance and steering has improved and is more responsive. I suppose it won't be close to the E46 or E92 feel. Dead and gone. Lastly, the the ? on the engine reliability will be a crap shoot. Bugs, gremlins, etc . Hoping nothing like the pos N63. Different animal but mine is just killing me. Next year we shall have to entertain an order I believe. Excited! |
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10-14-2018, 10:54 AM | #352 |
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Cruise control is a convenience; ACC is both convenience AND safety (the car slows down when someone suddenly cuts in ahead of the car). One can argue that power steering is convenience (less arm wrestling) when in fact it's also safety (easier to maneuver out of danger). It's semantics; regardless, features such as reverse camera (used to be a luxury item) is now required by law. Someday LKW/LKA and BSW will be expected on every car. Now that many Asian brands make these features standard across their lineups, the Germans should follow suit, or prove that their system is far superior to justify the exorbitant sum they charge.
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