Match UP 8dsp

Randyg · 03-30-2023, 12:32 PM

I apologize if this is a rehash. I have a 2023 330e xdrive with Hi-Fi (676). I'm a bit confused on which direction to go.

I'm looking for good 'bang for the buck'. I was going to see what just changing speakers out accomplishes (keeping amplifier and underseat subwoofers).

1) Focal gets good reviews (and is more affordable buying on Ebay). I do see some say the sound is too sharp and gets tiring. 2) BavAudio gets decent reviews. 3) Gets similar reviews but is the most expensive.

Any thoughts or recommendations?

1QuikWS6 · 03-30-2023, 02:46 PM

From experience on many BMW's I have owned, upgrading the amp first is best for sound improvement, you won't notice much (if any) difference if all you do is upgrade the speakers...

That being said, I just recently installed the Bimmertech AlphaOne Amp & retained the OEM HiFi speakers in my M440i Vert. Soundstage & available volume without muddiness/distortion is simply amazing vs the OEM 'amp'

Sometime down the road I will prolly also upgrade to their AlphaOne speaker set, but for now I am more than pleased. The packaged custom DSP Tune for the G23 is perfect!

For my 2015 435 I went with Bavsound Amp, then full speaker set afterwards - that setup was to upgrade HK Top HiFi & I am also very happy with that

Randyg · 03-30-2023, 03:45 PM

That's great information. But wait! Someone will now post a note saying the opposite (start with speakers)! Drives me crazy.

I checked the price of the Alphaone Amp and it's $1,500 vs $600ish for Bavaudio or Focal Speakers.

Do you still think the Amp provides the best "bang for the buck"?

Bryantbjb · 03-30-2023, 10:09 PM

Hi. I just did the Alpha 1 upgrade on my 2022 M440i vert. It is awesome. High Fi system as H&K was not available due to chip shortage. It works great. I also got a custom audio tune from a Bimmer-Tech technician remotely. That was pretty cool. I put together a playlist, he dialed into the amp, and we audio tuned interactively. I would recommend. I might look at speakers, but that seems like a lot of work. Amp install was easy, video from Bimmer-tech was spot on.

1WickedE90 · 03-31-2023, 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Randyg

I apologize if this is a rehash. I have a 2023 330e xdrive with Hi-Fi (676). I'm a bit confused on which direction to go.

https://g20.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1737016

This thread is worth a read.

Randyg · 03-31-2023, 01:19 PM

Very helpful thread. I'm convinced that buying an amp first us the right direction to go.

Question: Why buy the Alphaone amplifier from Bimmertech when the AudioFischer Match Up7DSP and the RAM harness can be purchased off Ebay for $500+ less?

I see a connection to the battery also needs to be made and there are no preset tunes....but are those the only differences?

NLJ · 03-31-2023, 01:34 PM

Any easy upgrade for the Harman Kardon system?
Is there an amp I can swap. Rather not do the speakers cause it is a pain in the butt.

Randyg · 03-31-2023, 04:01 PM

I believe the HK amplifier is different but it's just as easy to swap out from what I've read.

NLJ · 03-31-2023, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randyg

I believe the HK amplifier is different but it's just as easy to swap out from what I've read.

Who makes a plug and at swap?

Randyg · 03-31-2023, 06:55 PM

Audiotek Fischer or Bimmertech.

Audiotek also manufactures the amp for Bimmertech. They are pretty much the same.

Back to my earlier question that I hope someone can answer: why spend $500 more to buy from Bimmertech?

Help, anyone?

Technic · 04-01-2023, 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by NLJ

Any easy upgrade for the Harman Kardon system?
Is there an amp I can swap. Rather not do the speakers cause it is a pain in the butt.

Match UP 10DSP.

NLJ · 04-01-2023, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Technic

Match UP 10DSP.

That's for non Harman Kardon is it not?

Technic · 04-01-2023, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NLJ

That's for non Harman Kardon is it not?

The UP 10DSP is one PnP amp for the HK system.

NLJ · 04-01-2023, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Technic

The UP 10DSP is one PnP amp for the HK system.

This one?
https://www.audiotec-fischer.de/en/m...fiers/up-10dsp

Randyg · 04-01-2023, 03:55 PM

I went ahead and ordered the Match UP 8DSP with RAM harness for my 2023 330e. Found on Ebay. Far cheaper than going through Bimmertech.

Technic · 04-01-2023, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by NLJ

This one?
https://www.audiotec-fischer.de/en/m...fiers/up-10dsp

Correct… and you need this: https://www.audiotec-fischer.de/en/m...-bmw-1-9ram-hk

Bryantbjb · 04-01-2023, 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randyg

I went ahead and ordered the Match UP 8DSP with RAM harness for my 2023 330e. Found on Ebay. Far cheaper than going through Bimmertech.

I’ll be curious to see how you like. I paid the extra, but did wonder about the additional cost. The personal audio tuning was super cool from Bimmer-tech.

Skipjump · 04-05-2023, 08:03 PM

[QUOTE=Randyg;29992633]I went ahead and ordered the Match UP 8DSP with RAM harness for my 2023 330e. Found on Ebay. Far cheaper than going through Bimmertech.

Looking forward for your review

Prices seem to be be really high. I see people picking up bimmertech amp for 900 last Xmas and now they are almost double at 1500

Panscan340 · 04-07-2023, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NLJ

Any easy upgrade for the Harman Kardon system?
Is there an amp I can swap. Rather not do the speakers cause it is a pain in the butt.

Do you have an LCI with HK? Have you played around with the equalizer settings as described in some of the threads here? Honestly pretty impressed. Was planning on doing a match 10 but the changes really cleaned up the sound and it’s pretty punchy. Always had amps and speakers in every car before this but honestly think the HK in Lci is pretty good. A few people have said they think it’s an improvement vs pre Lci

NLJ · 04-08-2023, 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Panscan340

Do you have an LCI with HK? Have you played around with the equalizer settings as described in some of the threads here? Honestly pretty impressed. Was planning on doing a match 10 but the changes really cleaned up the sound and it’s pretty punchy. Always had amps and speakers in every car before this but honestly think the HK in Lci is pretty good. A few people have said they think it’s an improvement vs pre Lci

Do you have a suggestion for EQ settings?

Randyg · 04-17-2023, 08:58 PM

Received the Match Up8dsp amp and RAM cable. There are no brackets that Bimmer-tech includes but the connections are just as simple. It's also a simple task to connect to the battery for power. I'll need to come up with a proper mounting area.

I wasn't impressed with the sound right out of the box. But I downloaded a few sound files and everything improved. It will take some more adjusting but again, it's not that hard. Just takes some patience. I'm pleased.

Skipjump · 04-26-2023, 06:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randyg

Received the Match Up8dsp amp and RAM cable. There are no brackets that Bimmer-tech includes but the connections are just as simple. It's also a simple task to connect to the battery for power. I'll need to come up with a proper mounting area.

I wasn't impressed with the sound right out of the box. But I downloaded a few sound files and everything improved. It will take some more adjusting but again, it's not that hard. Just takes some patience. I'm pleased.

How did you install without the bracket?
Do you mind sharing the step by step

03-30-2023, 12:32 PM	#1
Randyg Private 25 Rep 83 Posts Drives: 2022 VW Golf R Join Date: May 2005 Location: Woodland Park, CO iTrader: (0)	Match UP 8dsp I apologize if this is a rehash. I have a 2023 330e xdrive with Hi-Fi (676). I'm a bit confused on which direction to go. I'm looking for good 'bang for the buck'. I was going to see what just changing speakers out accomplishes (keeping amplifier and underseat subwoofers). 1) Focal gets good reviews (and is more affordable buying on Ebay). I do see some say the sound is too sharp and gets tiring. 2) BavAudio gets decent reviews. 3) Gets similar reviews but is the most expensive. Any thoughts or recommendations?
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1QuikWS6 No 55mph 1631 Rep 8,495 Posts Drives: F32 435ix MSport Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Blitzburgh, PA iTrader: (113) Garage List 2022 BMW M440ix Vert [0.00] 2015 BMW 435ix MSport [0.00] 2000 Pontiac Trans Am [0.00]	From experience on many BMW's I have owned, upgrading the amp first is best for sound improvement, you won't notice much (if any) difference if all you do is upgrade the speakers... That being said, I just recently installed the Bimmertech AlphaOne Amp & retained the OEM HiFi speakers in my M440i Vert. Soundstage & available volume without muddiness/distortion is simply amazing vs the OEM 'amp' Sometime down the road I will prolly also upgrade to their AlphaOne speaker set, but for now I am more than pleased. The packaged custom DSP Tune for the G23 is perfect! For my 2015 435 I went with Bavsound Amp, then full speaker set afterwards - that setup was to upgrade HK Top HiFi & I am also very happy with that __________________ F32 435ix//MGM//M Sport-Prem-Tech-Driver Assist-Lighting-Cold Weather-Dyn Handling Pkgs//M4 Black Lthr Int w/M4 Alum Blade Trim//HK w/Bavsound Stg3//763M//M4 Euro LCI Tails//M4 Mirrors w/CF Covers//AWCarbon CF F/R Spoilers-Side Splitters-Diffuser 6WB/ID6 HU+HUD/IND M4 Alcantara Armrest//PURE S2 Turbo//AA FMIC+DP//ER CP+TIC//3.5bar TMAP/TS DV//AWE Tuning Exh w/Blk Tips//Turner MS CF Intake//BM3 Cary Jordan Tune//MPerf Diff//PrecRW Ignition Kit
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Randyg Private 25 Rep 83 Posts Drives: 2022 VW Golf R Join Date: May 2005 Location: Woodland Park, CO iTrader: (0)	That's great information. But wait! Someone will now post a note saying the opposite (start with speakers)! Drives me crazy. I checked the price of the Alphaone Amp and it's $1,500 vs $600ish for Bavaudio or Focal Speakers. Do you still think the Amp provides the best "bang for the buck"? Last edited by Randyg; 03-30-2023 at 03:50 PM..
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Bryantbjb Private 60 Rep 88 Posts Drives: 2024 M4 Competition /2022 X5 Join Date: Feb 2022 Location: Salem, OR iTrader: (0)	Just did it Hi. I just did the Alpha 1 upgrade on my 2022 M440i vert. It is awesome. High Fi system as H&K was not available due to chip shortage. It works great. I also got a custom audio tune from a Bimmer-Tech technician remotely. That was pretty cool. I put together a playlist, he dialed into the amp, and we audio tuned interactively. I would recommend. I might look at speakers, but that seems like a lot of work. Amp install was easy, video from Bimmer-tech was spot on.
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03-31-2023, 01:19 PM	#6
Randyg Private 25 Rep 83 Posts Drives: 2022 VW Golf R Join Date: May 2005 Location: Woodland Park, CO iTrader: (0)	Very helpful thread. I'm convinced that buying an amp first us the right direction to go. Question: Why buy the Alphaone amplifier from Bimmertech when the AudioFischer Match Up7DSP and the RAM harness can be purchased off Ebay for $500+ less? I see a connection to the battery also needs to be made and there are no preset tunes....but are those the only differences?
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NLJ First Lieutenant 223 Rep 358 Posts Drives: 2023 M340i Join Date: Aug 2022 Location: Canada iTrader: (0) Garage List 2023 BMW M340i X-Drive [0.00]	Any easy upgrade for the Harman Kardon system? Is there an amp I can swap. Rather not do the speakers cause it is a pain in the butt.
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Randyg Private 25 Rep 83 Posts Drives: 2022 VW Golf R Join Date: May 2005 Location: Woodland Park, CO iTrader: (0)	I believe the HK amplifier is different but it's just as easy to swap out from what I've read.
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Randyg Private 25 Rep 83 Posts Drives: 2022 VW Golf R Join Date: May 2005 Location: Woodland Park, CO iTrader: (0)	Audiotek Fischer or Bimmertech. Audiotek also manufactures the amp for Bimmertech. They are pretty much the same. Back to my earlier question that I hope someone can answer: why spend $500 more to buy from Bimmertech? Help, anyone?
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Randyg Private 25 Rep 83 Posts Drives: 2022 VW Golf R Join Date: May 2005 Location: Woodland Park, CO iTrader: (0)	I went ahead and ordered the Match UP 8DSP with RAM harness for my 2023 330e. Found on Ebay. Far cheaper than going through Bimmertech.
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Skipjump New Member 2 Rep 17 Posts Drives: 2018 330e, 2020 330i xdrive Join Date: Apr 2023 Location: NYC iTrader: (0)	[QUOTE=Randyg;29992633]I went ahead and ordered the Match UP 8DSP with RAM harness for my 2023 330e. Found on Ebay. Far cheaper than going through Bimmertech. Looking forward for your review Prices seem to be be really high. I see people picking up bimmertech amp for 900 last Xmas and now they are almost double at 1500
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Randyg Private 25 Rep 83 Posts Drives: 2022 VW Golf R Join Date: May 2005 Location: Woodland Park, CO iTrader: (0)	Received the Match Up8dsp amp and RAM cable. There are no brackets that Bimmer-tech includes but the connections are just as simple. It's also a simple task to connect to the battery for power. I'll need to come up with a proper mounting area. I wasn't impressed with the sound right out of the box. But I downloaded a few sound files and everything improved. It will take some more adjusting but again, it's not that hard. Just takes some patience. I'm pleased.
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