[larrylam646]

Originally Posted by ATG_

Hello,

I followed Larry guide on Page 5. Thank you for this great one!
https://g20.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...1&postcount=90

I replaced US with EU rear lights and EU switch, added the wire, VO coded 5665 with EU version and set LCE_BEL_LIN_VAR in 7083.
Rear Lights became EU, no errors in ISTA, everything works fine, but there is no reaction on the fog light button (on the dashboard, no fog light switches on).

Is there something else to code? Incorrect wiring? Not working switch?

Try setting 7083 NSL_VERBAUT to aktiv. Please note, I also VO Coded 7083 with ECE FA version and reverted some of the parameters back to NA values (see post #55). Doing so would set NSL_VERBAUT but it would also change/enable additional unrelated EU features, which you probably did not want to do.

Other EU taillight related features you may wish to consider by FDL Code 7083 include:

1) EU Brake Force (blinking taillight brake lamps + blinking CHMSL). Please note EU Brake Force appears to only work properly when 5665 is VO Coded with ECE version of FA.

ESS_AKTIVIERUNG_GESCHW --> wert_01
ESS_AKTIVIERUNG_REALE_VERZ --> wert_01
GEFAHRENBREMSLICHT_TYP --> bremslicht_blinkend

2) EU Taillight DRL/Parking lights

TFL_MODUS --> tfl_s

3) Automatic Hazard flashing when coming to a stop after emergency (hard) braking.

WB_GB_ENABLE --> aktiv

[ATG_]

Originally Posted by larrylam646

Try setting 7083 NSL_VERBAUT to aktiv...

Thank you Larry, this really helped. Now I can see the rear fog light icon on the KOMBI!!!

Next step is to check if there is voltage in the trunk connector.
As an idea, I bought rear lights from the UK, so I may need to connect the plug to the inner right light.

[larrylam646]

Originally Posted by ATG_

Thank you Larry, this really helped. Now I can see the rear fog light icon on the KOMBI!!!

Next step is to check if there is voltage in the trunk connector.
As an idea, I bought rear lights from the UK, so I may need to connect the plug to the inner right light.

If the taillights are UK spec, yes connect the wire to the right side inner taillight. First check to make sure the LED ICs are in the right rather than left inner tail lights. See https://g80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...4&postcount=12

Larry

[ATG_]

Thank you again, Larry!

Our assumption was correct, inner right works and no LEDs on the left.

Decided to add a new plug to the inner right, not to remove one from the left in case sometime in future I'll plug in EU (not UK) inner left light, in this case both rear fog lights will work

[okankaymak]

Originally Posted by TTG

I just tried coding this via Bimmercode.

We can change all above discussed parameters except

LIC_VERSION_DATA wert_131… -> wert_711…

Everything else allows turn signals to be separated but without the correct LIC VERSION DATA, we still get hyper flashing.

Bimmercode allows LIC VERSION DATA to be customized fully but we will need the detailed values out of wert_711

If someone can figure that portion out on bimmercode, I think we are there.

Which wert_711 values you ended up using if you don't mind me asking?

[TTG]

Originally Posted by okankaymak

Which wert_711 values you ended up using if you don't mind me asking?

I will update his thread when I get to it. I am away from my car currently.

[TTG]

After almost 3 years, I figured this out!!!!

Couple of plans got cancelled tonight and I found myself messing with the car and I got everything to work via Bimmer Code thanks to all who contributed to this thread.

Here is what I have done based on all the data that I have gathered through this thread. Full disclosure: Do this at your own risk!!!!

This is what worked for me.

Make sure that you have the latest version of Bimmer Code installed on your device.

Body Domain Control Menu, Expert mode change everything below as stated previously.

LIC_FEATURE_14 enable -> disable
LIC_NIVEAU_OVVERRIDE_INDEX G20_US_code2 -> G22_ECE_code2
LIC_NIVEAU_OVVERRIDE_DATA_0 G20_US_code2 -> G20_ECE_code1
LIC_LOG_LAMP_2_PHYS_LAMP_INDEX G20_US_code1 -> G20_ECE_code1
LIC_LOG_LAMP_2_PHYS_LAMP_DATA G20_US_code1 -> G20_ECE_code1
LIC_EDGE_CUTTER_RULE_ASSIGNMENT G20_US_code -> G20_ECE_code

And then go ahead and execute the coding.

Now this is the step that we all have been missing.

Once you are done with above coding, do not touch anything and go back to the expert mode and pull up

LICVERSIONDATA

Bimmer code has different values added to this list after you code above which were not present before or if you do all the coding at once. Based on the actual codes that larrylam646 & moproblems provided, I scrolled through the entire list and found values that matched their data around 98%. Following values were provided for by Larry and Moproblems:

71,14,09,02,08,44,06,4F,00,0A,14,02,B4,C8,02,F0,0F ,3E,D4,2C,27,32,03,03,07,02,28,78,3F,EF,16,0C,04,0 A,27,0F,77

I studied the entire list carefully and what I ended up choosing was the only set of data that started with 71, 14 and 09 which is identified as UNKNOWN_28 in my case (based on your vehicle's options your UNKNOWN number might be different) (Pay attention to the values!). The rest of the data on Bimmer code under any of the other UNKNOWNS were not even a close match and there was only one set of data that started with 71 in my case.


See below pic for UNKNOWN_28 for the values I selected.



Go ahead and execute coding again and then you are DONE!

Full set of Turn Signals that are separated from brake lights just as BMW designed!

I tested everything that I can while in the garage and everything works just as it would on a Rest of the Word (ROW) spec cars.

I will have to double check emergency braking feature and some other stuff when I drive the car tomorrow but brake lights, back up lights, turn signals, DRLs, parking lights (all), parking lights left & right & etc work perfectly with no hyper flashing on turn signals!!!!

Time to order some beautiful AMBER tail lights now

Let me know if you have any questions and thanks to all who contributed to this thread. I might create a separate thread to document this whole thing so that other folks don't have to read through this whole thing.

Let me know if you have any questions.

PS: My car's options are listed in my signature per the option codes BMW offered at the time of ordering. I do have Laser Lights which I don't know makes any difference as far as coding is concerned.

[howiegu]

Originally Posted by TTG

After almost 3 years, I figured this out!!!!

Couple of plans got cancelled tonight and I found myself messing with the car and I got everything to work via Bimmer Code thanks to all who contributed to this thread.

Here is what I have done based on all the data that I have gathered through this thread. Full disclosure: Do this at your own risk!!!!

This is what worked for me.

Make sure that you have the latest version of Bimmer Code installed on your device.

Body Domain Control Menu, Expert mode change everything below as stated previously.

LIC_FEATURE_14 enable -> disable
LIC_NIVEAU_OVVERRIDE_INDEX G20_US_code2 -> G22_ECE_code2
LIC_NIVEAU_OVVERRIDE_DATA_0 G20_US_code2 -> G20_ECE_code1
LIC_LOG_LAMP_2_PHYS_LAMP_INDEX G20_US_code1 -> G20_ECE_code1
LIC_LOG_LAMP_2_PHYS_LAMP_DATA G20_US_code1 -> G20_ECE_code1
LIC_EDGE_CUTTER_RULE_ASSIGNMENT G20_US_code -> G20_ECE_code

And then go ahead and execute the coding.

Now this is the step that we all have been missing.

Once you are done with above coding, do not touch anything and go back to the expert mode and pull up

LIC_VERSION_DATA

Bimmer code has different values added to this list after you code above which were not present before or if you do all the coding at once. Based on the actual codes that larrylam646 & moproblems provided, I scrolled through the entire list and found values that matched their data around 98%. Following values were provided for by Larry and Moproblems:

71,14,09,02,08,44,06,4F,00,0A,14,02,B4,C8,02,F0,0F ,3E,D4,2C,27,32,03,03,07,02,28,78,3F,EF,16,0C,04,0 A,27,0F,77

I studied the entire list carefully and what I ended up choosing was the only set of data that started with 71, 14 and 09 which is identified as UNKNOWN_28 in my case (based on your vehicle's options your UNKNOWN number might be different) (Pay attention to the values!). The rest of the data on Bimmer code under any of the other UNKNOWNS were not even a close match and there was only one set of data that started with 71 in my case.


See below pic for UNKNOWN_28 for the values I selected.

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Go ahead and execute coding again and then you are DONE!

Full set of Turn Signals that are separated from brake lights just as BMW designed!

I tested everything that I can while in the garage and everything works just as it would on a Rest of the Word (ROW) spec cars.

I will have to double check emergency braking feature and some other stuff when I drive the car tomorrow but brake lights, back up lights, turn signals, DRLs, parking lights (all), parking lights left & right & etc work perfectly with no hyper flashing on turn signals!!!!

Time to order some beautiful AMBER tail lights now

Let me know if you have any questions and thanks to all who contributed to this thread. I might create a separate thread to document this whole thing so that other folks don't have to read through this whole thing.

Let me know if you have any questions.

PS: My car's options are listed in my signature per the option codes BMW offered at the time of ordering. I do have Laser Lights which I don't know makes any difference as far as coding is concerned.

Will this code also allow brake force flashing to be enabled? Thanks.

[TTG]

Originally Posted by howiegu

Will this code also allow brake force flashing to be enabled? Thanks.

No, but you can code that separately.

[ATG_]

I guess the easiest way was to change vehicle type to EU code BDC with it and compare new NDC with previous one...

[ThatGTI]

Thank you @TTG

Just did this on my car and all works well. One thing to add. In your post you have it written "LIC_VERSION_DATA", but it's actually "LICVERSIONDATA". I panicked at first when I went in and searched "LIC_V" and didn't see anything populate haha. Then looked at your screenshot and saw it was one word. So glad to finally have the turn signal be separated!

[njfoses]

Originally Posted by TTG

After almost 3 years, I figured this out!!!!

Couple of plans got cancelled tonight and I found myself messing with the car and I got everything to work via Bimmer Code thanks to all who contributed to this thread.

Here is what I have done based on all the data that I have gathered through this thread. Full disclosure: Do this at your own risk!!!!

This is what worked for me.

Make sure that you have the latest version of Bimmer Code installed on your device.

Body Domain Control Menu, Expert mode change everything below as stated previously.

LIC_FEATURE_14 enable -> disable
LIC_NIVEAU_OVVERRIDE_INDEX G20_US_code2 -> G22_ECE_code2
LIC_NIVEAU_OVVERRIDE_DATA_0 G20_US_code2 -> G20_ECE_code1
LIC_LOG_LAMP_2_PHYS_LAMP_INDEX G20_US_code1 -> G20_ECE_code1
LIC_LOG_LAMP_2_PHYS_LAMP_DATA G20_US_code1 -> G20_ECE_code1
LIC_EDGE_CUTTER_RULE_ASSIGNMENT G20_US_code -> G20_ECE_code

And then go ahead and execute the coding.

Now this is the step that we all have been missing.

Once you are done with above coding, do not touch anything and go back to the expert mode and pull up

LIC_VERSION_DATA

Bimmer code has different values added to this list after you code above which were not present before or if you do all the coding at once. Based on the actual codes that larrylam646 & moproblems provided, I scrolled through the entire list and found values that matched their data around 98%. Following values were provided for by Larry and Moproblems:

71,14,09,02,08,44,06,4F,00,0A,14,02,B4,C8,02,F0,0F ,3E,D4,2C,27,32,03,03,07,02,28,78,3F,EF,16,0C,04,0 A,27,0F,77

I studied the entire list carefully and what I ended up choosing was the only set of data that started with 71, 14 and 09 which is identified as UNKNOWN_28 in my case (based on your vehicle's options your UNKNOWN number might be different) (Pay attention to the values!). The rest of the data on Bimmer code under any of the other UNKNOWNS were not even a close match and there was only one set of data that started with 71 in my case.


See below pic for UNKNOWN_28 for the values I selected.


Go ahead and execute coding again and then you are DONE!

Full set of Turn Signals that are separated from brake lights just as BMW designed!

I tested everything that I can while in the garage and everything works just as it would on a Rest of the Word (ROW) spec cars.

I will have to double check emergency braking feature and some other stuff when I drive the car tomorrow but brake lights, back up lights, turn signals, DRLs, parking lights (all), parking lights left & right & etc work perfectly with no hyper flashing on turn signals!!!!

Time to order some beautiful AMBER tail lights now

Let me know if you have any questions and thanks to all who contributed to this thread. I might create a separate thread to document this whole thing so that other folks don't have to read through this whole thing.

Let me know if you have any questions.

PS: My car's options are listed in my signature per the option codes BMW offered at the time of ordering. I do have Laser Lights which I don't know makes any difference as far as coding is concerned.

Is this still working as you expected? Any issues?

[TTG]

Originally Posted by ThatGTI

Thank you @TTG

Just did this on my car and all works well. One thing to add. In your post you have it written "LIC_VERSION_DATA", but it's actually "LICVERSIONDATA". I panicked at first when I went in and searched "LIC_V" and didn't see anything populate haha. Then looked at your screenshot and saw it was one word. So glad to finally have the turn signal be separated!

Good catch, I will edit my write up

Originally Posted by njfoses

Is this still working as you expected? Any issues?

No issues at all. All is functioning good so far.

[gnolivos]

Would you mind showing turn signal with brake applied?

[gnolivos]

I checked my rear turn signals on my 2022 USA car and when I trigger a turn signal it blinks the entire bottom row as well as the upper outer cluster of lights.

Is this coding meant to eliminate only the cluster then? Personally I find it much safer to have the entire thing blinking as per US factory spec especially given there is no amber contrast.

[TTG]

Originally Posted by gnolivos

I checked my rear turn signals on my 2022 USA car and when I trigger a turn signal it blinks the entire bottom row as well as the upper outer cluster of lights.

Is this coding meant to eliminate only the cluster then? Personally I find it much safer to have the entire thing blinking as per US factory spec especially given there is no amber contrast.

Yes, this mod will separate them. The idea is then to procure ROW spec Tail Lights with amber signals which is what I am planning on doing.

IMO, the US spec tails is one of the unsafest things out there on these cars. When folks are right next to you, they have no idea if you are braking or have your turn signal on to change lanes.

Also, during an emergency, if you turn on your 4 way hazards on and brake at the same time, the ONLY brake light you have on a US spec car is the center / 3rd brake light as the rest your tails are just hazards and flashing away.

[gnolivos]

Originally Posted by TTG

Yes, this mod will separate them. The idea is then to procure ROW spec Tail Lights with amber signals which is what I am planning on doing.

IMO, the US spec tails is one of the unsafest things out there on these cars. When folks are right next to you, they have no idea if you are braking or have your turn signal on to change lanes.

Also, during an emergency, if you turn on your 4 way hazards on and brake at the same time, the ONLY brake light you have on a US spec car is the center / 3rd brake light as the rest your tails are just hazards and flashing away.

Interesting and yes I see your points. Amber spec is way better. And nicer looking too lol.

One thing though: if you are turning the car next to you or behind you will definitely know right? It's blinking. It can't be confused with braking. Or did I misunderstand?

[njfoses]

Let's be honest here, this mod is mainly for aesthetics and personal taste. Saying this is "safer" in regard to indications to other drivers is a large stretch at best.

[okankaymak]

I'm still waiting for a video of this working

[howiegu]

Coded my G22 following the instructions ( selected G22 instead G20 in all coding).

Braking lights and rear turn signals won't lit up.

I guess the coding is specifically for G20.

[TTG]

Originally Posted by gnolivos

Interesting and yes I see your points. Amber spec is way better. And nicer looking too lol.

One thing though: if you are turning the car next to you or behind you will definitely know right? It's blinking. It can't be confused with braking. Or did I misunderstand?

If they are paying attention but having amber indicators eliminates that confusion

Originally Posted by njfoses

Let's be honest here, this mod is mainly for aesthetics and personal taste. Saying this is "safer" in regard to indications to other drivers is a large stretch at best.

Not according to rest of the world. Try registering a car with NA set up outside of US and Canada, it will immediately fail inspection which is the reason why OP created this thread. Military personnel trying to register a US spec car in the UK which failed their MOT due to N. American set up.

Originally Posted by okankaymak

I'm still waiting for a video of this working

Take a look at post #70

Originally Posted by howiegu

Coded my G22 following the instructions ( selected G22 instead G20 in all coding).

Braking lights and rear turn signals won't lit up.

I guess the coding is specifically for G20.

Yes, no idea what the parameters are for anything besides G20. There was a G22 specific discussion on this very same topic in the past, you might want to search for that. My guess is that "LICVERSIONDATA" has different values if you changed everything else to G22.

[njfoses]

Originally Posted by TTG

Not according to rest of the world. Try registering a car with NA set up outside of US and Canada, it will immediately fail inspection which is the reason why OP created this thread. Military personnel trying to register a US spec car in the UK which failed their MOT due to silly set up.

I should have been more specific meaning specifically here in the US, its done as an aesthetic mod.